Help a new guy out: I just don't understand why the whole contract thing is such a secret. Why are negotiations held behind closed doors? Why is a TA not releasable for 7 full days? It feels like I'm still active duty and we're dealing with classified info. Also feels like it's harder to keep those who should be accountable.

Join the club. After C2012 I asked my rep if I could see our survey results. He asked why. I told him I wanted to see how close our contract came to our collective wishes (seemed reasonable to me).
He explained how unreasonable that is, how there's more involved that I didn't know, that it tipped our hand to the company, etc.
I still think accountability is a reasonable concept.

Goose, details will be leaked soon..stand by, copy?

Mods, any chance this thread can be merged into the C2012 thread?

Why can't we wait and see what it entails? I heard 10,10, 5,3 IF we gave up PS. After this year for PS that is and first 10 is now, with second 1/1/16. Not saying it will be worth a yes vote, but "what's with all the negativity, Morarity?"

Read "ROPE A DOPE" on CHIT CHAT! PF needs to be involved in this MEC/NC/SECRET FACTION. This guy knows a thing or two and he is the savior! Hallelujah !!:D:D

TEN

I think you answered your own question.

What are the current profit sharing thresholds. Anyone know?

I look forward to seeing the defined benefit retirement plan back in a big way.

I asked my rep what kind of goals as an organization we have, you know, definitive numbers like Delta and Richard Anderson use to measure how well the company is doing. My rep told me the survey was our goal.......................which we don't allow anyone to see.

(awkward silence)

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

I then looked in the mirror to see if I had a post it note on my forehead that said "Idiot".