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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
The NMB also won't (can't) reduce our PS or impose the draconian scope concessions as well as the numerous other concessions. They don't have the power or the authority to do so. All they can do is park us under current book. I'd rather have that than this TA.

And even being parked is only if we're being "unreasonable" in what we're demanding. Not accepting concessions isn't being unreasonable. Keep current book and ask for lower raises and we won't be parked, we'll just have to wait out the typical 3 or so year timeline for bad faith company playbook negotiations. But all under current book with no concessions, huge PS and way more widebody JV jobs.

Completely agree. Getting parked is a great way to avoid concessions and keep PS!
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I thought LCA were 20% of the group? Is it 10% or 20%, frightened minds want to know.

There are numbers on this. Far less impact than you would think. In the road show slides.

Remember all LCA's aren't always doing OE.

More info to come from sources IF we get a TA.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:29 PM
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After briefing Mrs Masters on the TA she says "sounds like Carl and FTB would vote no. You should too." I shall take her advice. But how does she know you guys???
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
After briefing Mrs Masters on the TA she says "sounds like Carl and FTB would vote no. You should too." I shall take her advice. But how does she know you guys???
To Mrs. Masters,




^^^ And that is me right now. With 20 min to go to van time.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor
There are numbers on this. Far less impact than you would think. In the road show slides.

Remember all LCA's aren't always doing OE.

More info to come from sources IF we get a TA.
I hope you're right but then it begs the question, why are we doing it in the first place if it's far less of an impact?
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:34 PM
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Good question to find out more about.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:34 PM
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I will not pay for my pay "raise" during the best negotiating environment we have ever seen. AA plus 4 years cola is a huge slap in the face.

How many survey takers said monetize PS to industry standard rates and then add 4 years of cola? I know my guidance wasn't followed.

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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Before we lock-in 50% block hours, here's some actual DALPA Data on the JV for comparison:




Cheers
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Thanks for posting--this should also be posted on the hangar forum!
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Mole alert.

This guy has admitted he's not a Delta pilot.
Sharpest Tool only shows up at contract time. He made my ignore list during C2012. Quit quoting him. BTW, I emailed my reps this morning and did not request a reply. I still got one and I know of at least one rep that is voting to send it back. Keep the emails flowing.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I thought LCA were 20% of the group? Is it 10% or 20%, frightened minds want to know.
I "heard" 10% of Capts could be way off. Regardless, this will result in a LOT less lines.
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