By 1 JAN 17 the base pay plus DC will be up almost 19%. There is at least another 2% in additional soft money and it's probably higher.(increased vacation and training, shortcall pay, vacation to PD, new reroute rules ect.)
That total 12 months past the amendable date will be somewhere in the 450 million range.

Similar to what 80 said, I had our codeshare committee chairman explain that part to me earlier. I highly respect his opinion as he has lived these numbers in greater detail that I ever want to - by "not so bad" I meant that it seemed more or less the same result as what we currently have, just a different metric to measure the same flying. Part of the rationale was that as we upguage to 330's from ER's some of the EASK deficit would go away, and also something about how we augment and the euros don't. I'm not willing to write that section off until I understand it better.

This is all moot if the reps don't ratify it. We'll see tomorrow if they even get through all the material - which they had barely begun to do this afternoon by 6pm...

Would not the increase in the Block hour ratio prevent that? The current requirement is 1.35 and the company is at 1.55. They have to go up to 1.85 per the TA.

For those who haven't followed the marketing material being disseminated on Twitter/Facebook, here are some of nuggets you will likely hear over and over below.

Notice as you read through FB and Twitter, hardly one iota mentioning downside. Just cherry picking and putting some nice spin. Sorry to use this word but it's DB at it's worst and the wrong way for a respectable union to lead.

Do the words of Mike Donatelli reconcile with the TA you are seeing? Are his words accurate and honest? Or are they just marketing hype similar to what Ford and Harrison would put out? Does anybody honestly think this TA in any way resembles the input given through the contract survey? How about the fear of what will happen if we don't accept what was offered? This is not leadership. This is the mouthpiece of management.

MD: Opportunity. I have said it many times. Opportunity to once and for all, turn the corner and never look back,makes certain our futures.

MD: The best combination of Pay rates and Profit Sharing, The Best Scope. The Best work rules. All at a growing airline. A growing mainline.

MD: (see chart) While there are lots of stories here, the main takeaway is that we must GET…and STAY…synched to our airline.

MD: From the JCBA to Contract 2012, we stayed true to our mission…to find value anywhere, anyhow…to keep the raises coming.

MD: We formulated a strategic plan. We asked our pilots about a new contract. Your reps put the plan in motion.

MD: We have a deal on the table. A contract that sets a new standard. Raises the bar across the board. Pushes beyond Industry Leading.

MD: Restoration? How about Resurgent? A resurgence of the Delta Pilots and a resurgence of the profession.

MD:You told us what you wanted in surveys&on the phone.You told us that you like the direction we’re going together.You said “Keep it Going”

MD: Contract 2012 delivered on what it was supposed to do…to increase pay and job opportunities for the Delta pilots.

MD: So back to present day…This Deal on the table is so much more that 2012. Imagine what this will mean to Delta pilots and their families.

MD: I often hear the terms “Member Driven”, and “Bottoms Up” when describing what we do. Well, it’s time to Walk the Walk, not Talk the Talk

MD: To be perfectly clear, These are mature negotiations in which we pulled every trigger, fired every bullet, to deliver every last penny.

MD: The idea that we can simple resume negotiations…go back to the table and pick up where we left off is a fallacy. It simply won’t happen.

MD: The next step if we can’t move forward right here and right now is to step back and prepare for a long slog with the NMB....

MD:.... Just like FedEx. Just like Southwest. Our fate will be in the government’s hands.

MEC: The 14.48% pay raise can be viewed as an 8.74% pay raise + a 5.74% conversion of “at-risk” profit sharing into a “no-risk” increase in pay

MEC: This converted 5.74% of variable compensation to fixed compensation in hourly pay rates - assumes DAL achieves $6.0+ billion every year...

MEC: The TA maintained no cap on profit sharing.

MD:This TA will redefine getting PAID as an airline pilot. Before any change to profit sharing, it is ABOVE C2K Rates"


TOTALLY MEANINGLESS and an insult to the intelligence of our pilot group.

I was told the same thing by several reps. The new agreement preserves what we have and could end up better as we up guage the Atlantic flying and AF/KLM down guage as per their current fleet plans. I want to see the numbers to verify it but the reps seem to have no issue with this. They have issues in other areas but not this one.

You saying a 19% increase by 2017. Please do not forget we give up 117 million in PS. That happens in 2016. The soft money given back to the company in the form of work rule changes should more than offset any soft money gains too us. Very little to be excited about.

Seriously considering dropping my ALPA lanyard in the first garbage bin I see at the airport tomorrow. I'm too new to be eligible to vote, so I hope the rest of you flush this TA Turd back where it belongs.

That's about as succinct as you can say it. Can I borrow those exact words to send to my Rep?

I wish I had your confidence the E/190-195 will be growth airframes. Funny they never offer to buy widebodies if we give upper end scope relief.

Again...why are we even negotiating to trade scope for new small narrow bodies. If the company needs them, they will get them.

We help fix their self imposed DCI problems AGAIN with more large Rjs

PS is worthless
 

The top 10 analyst in the US with decades of credibility are all saying the economic crash will occur between Oct 2015 and Jul 2016. To include a currency reset.
Don't you all get it, the profit sharing is toast. There won't be any profit sharing for years.
You need to send this back and negotiate hard dollars.
12-10-6-6 at minimum.
Read my lips....there will be NO profit sharing.
Analysts today and yesterday started down grading the airlines.
Can anybody understand we haven't even got to 2004 contract.
VOTE NO
Don't let the 60% weenies get this TA by.
The dalpa are robots. They will start their games by calling everyone within minutes of a post to sell youth BS just like they did last contract.
I was called twice within minutes of 2 post.
Don't fall for this BS.
VOTE NO
Tell your rep they will be recalled if they vote for this crap.