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TCMC17RES 06-09-2015 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1899646)
The NMB also won't (can't) reduce our PS or impose the draconian scope concessions as well as the numerous other concessions. They don't have the power or the authority to do so. All they can do is park us under current book. I'd rather have that than this TA.

And even being parked is only if we're being "unreasonable" in what we're demanding. Not accepting concessions isn't being unreasonable. Keep current book and ask for lower raises and we won't be parked, we'll just have to wait out the typical 3 or so year timeline for bad faith company playbook negotiations. But all under current book with no concessions, huge PS and way more widebody JV jobs.


Completely agree. Getting parked is a great way to avoid concessions and keep PS!

Professor 06-09-2015 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1899722)
I thought LCA were 20% of the group? Is it 10% or 20%, frightened minds want to know.


There are numbers on this. Far less impact than you would think. In the road show slides.

Remember all LCA's aren't always doing OE.

More info to come from sources IF we get a TA.

Doug Masters 06-09-2015 01:29 PM

After briefing Mrs Masters on the TA she says "sounds like Carl and FTB would vote no. You should too." I shall take her advice. :) But how does she know you guys??? ;)

forgot to bid 06-09-2015 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1899736)
After briefing Mrs Masters on the TA she says "sounds like Carl and FTB would vote no. You should too." I shall take her advice. :) But how does she know you guys??? ;)

To Mrs. Masters,

http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploa...ohnson-nod.gif


^^^ And that is me right now. With 20 min to go to van time.

forgot to bid 06-09-2015 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1899734)
There are numbers on this. Far less impact than you would think. In the road show slides.

Remember all LCA's aren't always doing OE.

More info to come from sources IF we get a TA.

I hope you're right but then it begs the question, why are we doing it in the first place if it's far less of an impact?

Professor 06-09-2015 01:34 PM

Good question to find out more about.

notEnuf 06-09-2015 01:34 PM

I will not pay for my pay "raise" during the best negotiating environment we have ever seen. AA plus 4 years cola is a huge slap in the face.

How many survey takers said monetize PS to industry standard rates and then add 4 years of cola? I know my guidance wasn't followed.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/me...eenshot-39.png

MD88Driver 06-09-2015 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1899582)
Before we lock-in 50% block hours, here's some actual DALPA Data on the JV for comparison:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Brief%2001.png


Cheers
George

Thanks for posting--this should also be posted on the hangar forum!

ExAF 06-09-2015 01:36 PM

Vote No
 

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1899701)
Mole alert.

This guy has admitted he's not a Delta pilot.

Sharpest Tool only shows up at contract time. He made my ignore list during C2012. Quit quoting him.;) BTW, I emailed my reps this morning and did not request a reply. I still got one and I know of at least one rep that is voting to send it back. Keep the emails flowing.

Schwanker 06-09-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1899722)
I thought LCA were 20% of the group? Is it 10% or 20%, frightened minds want to know.

I "heard" 10% of Capts could be way off. Regardless, this will result in a LOT less lines.


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