Originally Posted by MOTOJOE (Post 1900821)

Why did we give up anything in his contract?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1900849)

That's a single layered perspective- the fact is, when it comes to bidding that one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

In doing so, by pulling trips out of the pot, you're actually affecting 100% of the FOs, not just the ones that target LCA trips.

Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1900853)

That's the Vocal minority fallacy though. Happy and content people don't write in at all. You have take stock of those who do call in and consider the ratio of the silent voices and the voices of whatever was in the pilot survey (which is statistically way more accurate than the the consensus on APC).

It's the same way you vote for senators, and other political figures. You vote for the person to make judgement calls, you don't vote for how they vote. I'm not saying that's the best way to go about it, but that's how it's done.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1900849)

That's a single layered perspective- the fact is, when it comes to bidding that one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

In doing so, by pulling trips out of the pot, you're actually affecting 100% of the FOs, not just the ones that target LCA trips.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1900857)

What if some of that silence is all the pizzed off former DALPA supporters who have just plain given up on DALPA EVER saying NO to anything?

Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1900837)

Is this true? How in the world would someone get a doctors not for something from 3 years ago? Where did you read this?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1900849)

That's a single layered perspective- the fact is, when it comes to bidding that one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

In doing so, by pulling trips out of the pot, you're actually affecting 100% of the FOs, not just the ones that target LCA trips.

Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1900853)

That's the Vocal minority fallacy though. Happy and content people don't write in at all. You have take stock of those who do call in and consider the ratio of the silent voices and the voices of whatever was in the pilot survey (which is statistically way more accurate than the the consensus on APC).

Since I WAS one of those happy and content people before this TA came out, I'm guessing there are a lot more like me that are calling/emailing their reps when they never did before. Also, silence is not consent. It's, well it's silence. Maybe they are out of the loop for whatever reason like on vacation.

It's the same way you vote for senators, and other political figures. You vote for the person to make judgement calls, you don't vote for how they vote. I'm not saying that's the best way to go about it, but that's how it's done.

Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1900863)

You are correct. Let's say pilot 1 wants trip A. Trip A does not get awarded because it is with a LCA. Pilot 1 now has to get trip B. Pilot 2 wanted trip B and would have received it under the old contract but must now settle for trip C. It continues down the line so it affects all pilots in a category.