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The Walrus 06-10-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1900781)
I've been so stunned by this capitulation, nay, sell-out that I've been unable to post.

But sick leave investigation back to 2012? This truly is historic! Retroactive Concessions?! This HAS to be a first!

Very happy to stick with our current agreement and go from there. Be Not Afraid.

Just curious. How would they investigate past sick usage?

Professor 06-10-2015 11:52 AM

For those interested the Strategic Planning committee slides are available on the DALPA website.

Lots of good info in it. If there are questions please post them here, call your reps or email/call a P2P rep.

Thanks.

https://dal.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...d=0&TabId=2593

Raging white 06-10-2015 11:54 AM

Hey Professor, what's the official MEC Comm answer to scrubbing the Facebook page comments.
My 2cents: if you want to push your message on social media, it's pretty anti-social to delete input/responses. Adds to the perception that they have a problem with transparency.

Professor 06-10-2015 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 1900800)
Just curious. How would they investigate past sick usage?

There is no retroactive verifications required for sick in the TA.

Burn Notice 06-10-2015 11:54 AM

Thank you!

sailingfun 06-10-2015 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1900770)
There are 19 voting reps. 10 yes votes would send it to memrat in a senatorial vote (1 rep = 1 vote). Technically it could go to roll call (1 rep = the number of pilots he represents) but that is highly unlikely IMO.

No clue which reps are leaning which way.

I am hearing the contract is not going to be voted on by the pilots. I am a borderline no voter at the moment so that is ok. I hold no illusions however that the company will come back to the table. I suspect we will start over with a more traditional process.

ERflyer 06-10-2015 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1900806)
There is no retroactive verifications required for sick in the TA.

Bad gouge?

Maddog Heaven 06-10-2015 11:58 AM

Concessions....Dr. Seuss

Would you take concessions here and there?
Would you take them anywhere?

I would not could not here or there.
I would not take them anywhere

Would you could you with Vaseline?
Or with a beer?
Plus Dramamine?

I would not could not with Vaseline.
Nor with a beer.
And Dramamine.
I do not like concessions, Mike, you see.
Go back to the table.
Until then, leave me be.

TCMC17RES 06-10-2015 11:58 AM

Selling with Fuzzy math
 
Statement:
5.74% of variable compensation converted to fixed compensation in the form of hourly pay rates, assuming the Company achieves PTIX of $6.0+ billion every year o This impact is reduced if PTIX is less than $6 billion

Please back me up on my napkin math...

Last year I earned a PS bonus at 16.58% on 4.5B

If I turn this into an equation we can find the %rate (x) earned per B$ profit:

2.5X + 2(4.5-2.5)X = 16.58

2.5X + 4X = 16.58
6.5X = 16.58
X = 2.55 %/B$

This is the rate that we earned last year per billion profit @10% return
With this TA we give up (6.0-2.5) = 3.5X = 8.9%

How does Alpa come up with 5.74%?

MOTOJOE 06-10-2015 12:06 PM

Professor, In th sick part of the TA. It says 365 rolling look back for more than 15 days out sick for verification. So my understanding is compared to c2012 it doesn't look back to just the sick yr June 1st to jun 1st? It constantly looks back 365 days?


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