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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1900893)

Closing arguments underway.

OJ did it I don't care what Johnny Cochran said.

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Originally Posted by Beanbag (Post 1900896)

I would really really really like to hear an explanation for the deleted Facebook stuff...

you aren't going to get one....it will be ignored until it goes away

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1900889)

So obtuse you are .

United and American both pay the a330 and the 767-400 in the same band as the 777.

Incidentally, they pay the 747 and a380 in a separate band.

Soon, we will have no 747s and will be a predominately an a330 airline.

ALPA prides themselves on pattern bargaining, which you well know how it works.

They out right failed by being unable to match those rates.

So, for a guy like you oh has been relegated to 767 for what likely is the remainder of your short career here, unless you get lucky enough to hold an a330, you will never see the financial gains that an AMR or UAL pilot will for doing the same job on the same airplane.

The TA'd rate on the 330 is higher then Americans rate at the amendable date. Are you suggesting we lower it to match them?

A little irony...

The last time we saw this much solidarity on any issue was during the "Keep Delta My Delta" campaign. For those not around at the time, Doug Parker and his minions tried to take over Delta.

A small group within our union have stark similarities with Doug.

The upside. A large majority of Delta pilots are unifying and may realize they are more powerful than the union ever gave them credit for.

Just got an email from my rep saying sick leave was the most debated section so far. He thinks it will be sent on to us to decide. C2012 all over again just worse.

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Originally Posted by pilotc90a (Post 1900891)

In my opinion the company knows to much of our personal health history. Just in the past year and a half I have gotten calls from "Delta Health Services". One was to see if I needed counseling for my weight problem... I asked, how did you get my BIM number, and she told me that it was from the physical I took to get the extra health care dollars. The second instance was when I had bronchitis. The Dr. prescribed an inhaler. a short time later they asked if I needed any information on controlling my Asthma! Once Dr. Foster is installed as the Director of health services, he can, by himself, end your career. that "medical release" can disqualify you from line flying until HE is satisfied that you meet the FAA medical guidelines. The Heart attack example they gave in day one was an exaggeration, but there are a lot of things that can disqualify you from having a medical, and they don't need your permission to do it either! HIPPA privacy only prevents doctors and hospitals from giving out your information WITHOUT your consent. Delta is self insured. Every prescription you have ever had filled is on file with DHS

Exactly. You got in an argument with a gate agent? You refused an airplane due to fatigue? "We need you to come in for an exam, you may have some issues that need addressing...."

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1900893)

Closing arguments underway.

So will the vote happen today, or put off until tomorrow?

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1900909)

So will the vote happen today, or put off until tomorrow?

Doesn't really matter. We know how they will vote. It will be up to the pilots to vote no..

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Originally Posted by MOTOJOE (Post 1900907)

Just got an email from my rep saying sick leave was the most debated section so far. He thinks it will be sent on to us to decide. C2012 all over again just worse.

what's sad is that sick leave was debated more than the JV Scope, LCA bidding, and loss of PS.

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Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1900908)

Exactly. You got in an argument with a gate agent? You refused an airplane due to fatigue? "We need you to come in for an exam, you may have some issues that need addressing...."

I'm thinking there must be a few guys who are really, really, abusing sick leave for the company to take this much effort to eliminate them, because it sounds like that's exactly what's going to happen.:rolleyes:

Of course the side benefit will be, everyone will be afraid to call in sick, so they'll be coming to work sick, making more of us sick...so we got that going for us!