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Sounds 06-10-2015 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1900945)
Do we live in Iraq?

I commute from Iraq, yeah!

pilotc90a 06-10-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1900935)
how do I find the FB page you are talking about?

search for Delta MEC COMM

FlyingDutchman 06-10-2015 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1900904)
The TA'd rate on the 330 is higher then Americans rate at the amendable date. Are you suggesting we lower it to match them?

No no no...band the 330 and 767-400 with our 777/A350 rate..:confused:

EdGrimley 06-10-2015 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 1900940)
Does the company still have access to your info if you have medical through a different source like TRICARE for ex-military or a spouses insurance? Not that this is in any way acceptable. I'm generally against lawyers but this seems like a class action law suit to me.

If, heaven forbid, this TA ever sees the light of day and is passed I would gladly join a class action lawsuit. Every American has a right to have their medical records remain private.

If this TA passes, standbye. A electronic signup sheet to join the suit could be circulated in every flight deck, layover, message board, etc in short order. I'm sure the publicity of a multi-year lawsuit between Delta and it's pilots will help the stock out.

Much more to it than this but here are a few words from our sponsor...

"The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals’ medical records and other personal health information and applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically. The Rule requires appropriate safeguards to protect the privacy of personal health information, and sets limits and conditions on the uses and disclosures that may be made of such information without patient authorization. The Rule also gives patients rights over their health information, including rights to examine and obtain a copy of their health records, and to request corrections."

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa...e/privacyrule/

Don't surrender your rights. Especially as an airline pilot who deserves to have information, sensitive in nature, secure at all times.

flyallnite 06-10-2015 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1900962)
If, heaven forbid, this TA ever sees the light of day and is passed I would gladly join a class action lawsuit. Every American has a right to have their medical records remain private.

If this TA passes, standbye. A electronic signup sheet to join the suit could be circulated in every flight deck, layover, message board, etc in short order. I'm sure the publicity of a multi-year lawsuit between Delta and it's pilots will help the stock out.

Much more to it than this but here are a few words from our sponsor...

"The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals’ medical records and other personal health information and applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically. The Rule requires appropriate safeguards to protect the privacy of personal health information, and sets limits and conditions on the uses and disclosures that may be made of such information without patient authorization. The Rule also gives patients rights over their health information, including rights to examine and obtain a copy of their health records, and to request corrections."

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa...e/privacyrule/

Don't surrender your rights. Especially as an airline pilot who deserves to have information, sensitive in nature, secure at all times.

I don't plan on surrendering mine, not without a fight.

Again, this isn't about 15% of pilots abusing sick leave. That never made any sense.

It's about gaining the sort of power over every pilot that they could never have dreamed of having. If this becomes our contract, DL will have you by the short and curlies whenever they please, for ANY reason.

Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1900967)
I don't plan on surrendering mine, not without a fight.

Again, this isn't about 15% of pilots abusing sick leave. That never made any sense.

It's about gaining the sort of power over every pilot that they could never have dreamed of having. If this becomes our contract, DL will have you by the short and curlies whenever they please, for ANY reason.

Guys, the law allows for this if the request is for paying you sick leave benefits. You don't have to agree to release anything, then the company is perfectly within its rights to not pay you for your sickness. Want to sue or grieve it? Your own "union" agrees with management. Case dismissed.

Carl

Grumpyaviator 06-10-2015 02:01 PM

You guys need to start a CLOSED Delta TA Facebook page. Don't let MEC/CNC or management in it and invite all your Facebook and other Delta friends to join. Then post all of the details and gotchas. That is what turned the XJT TA around. I'm convinced it would've passed otherwise, but likely became the first alpa vote completely turned around by social media, because the union conspired with the company to only disclose the bits and pieces that really only amounted to a few carrots.

Also, you must ban those that join just to make waves or divert the topic, or are caught inviting mgmt and/or union personnel. They don't help the cause and do tremendous damage to the intentions of the page. They'll claim their free speech is being quenched, but they really don't have anything productive to contribute.

Wmuav8r 06-10-2015 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1900863)
You are correct. Let's say pilot 1 wants trip A. Trip A does not get awarded because it is with a LCA. Pilot 1 now has to get trip B. Pilot 2 wanted trip B and would have received it under the old contract but must now settle for trip C. It continues down the line so it affects all pilots in a category.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This stuff is not difficult. Why would any FO in any category vote yes for this provision??? It is not like the rest of the TA makes up for it in any way, shape, or form.

flyallnite 06-10-2015 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1900968)
Guys, the law allows for this if the request is for paying you sick leave benefits. You don't have to agree to release anything, then the company is perfectly within its rights to not pay you for your sickness. Want to sue or grieve it? Your own "union" agrees with management. Case dismissed.

Carl

This is about more than sick leave. The company doc can now freely control your FAA medical. Do you see a conflict of interest??

Hank Kingsley 06-10-2015 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdrick (Post 1900924)
B.S. from NYC....a guess that I feel good about.


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