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Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 1900970)
You guys need to start a CLOSED Delta TA Facebook page. Don't let MEC/CNC or management in it and invite all your Facebook and other Delta friends to join. Then post all of the details and gotchas. That is what turned the XJT TA around. I'm convinced it would've passed otherwise, but likely became the first alpa vote completely turned around by social media, because the union conspired with the company to only disclose the bits and pieces that really only amounted to a few carrots.

Also, you must ban those that join just to make waves or divert the topic, or are caught inviting mgmt and/or union personnel. They don't help the cause and do tremendous damage to the intentions of the page. They'll claim their free speech is being quenched, but they really don't have anything productive to contribute.

This is an excellent idea. Any Facebook experts here?

Carl

Cycle Pilot 06-10-2015 02:27 PM

Delta Air Lines Inc Stock: Profit Sharing Reduction Helps Offset 15% Increase, Says Credit Suisse

Looks like the investors get it.

EdGrimley 06-10-2015 02:28 PM

Delta Air Lines Inc Stock: Profit Sharing Reduction Helps Offset 15% Increase, Says Credit Suisse

Credit Suisse noted that the fixed increase of 15% by the amendable date is slightly more than it expected, but the profit sharing offset is more significant at this point. With the 20% profit sharing threshold moving to $6 billion for all employees, the firm expects approximately $500 million of potential savings, compared to $2.5 billion of threshold. The firm believes that this will be large enough saving to offset the fixed increase of 15% for pilots, giving extra cost of approximately $400 million.

Denny Crane 06-10-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1900904)
The TA'd rate on the 330 is higher then Americans rate at the amendable date. Are you suggesting we lower it to match them?

Come on sailing think about it. American has it banded with their 777's so why shouldn't we have it banded with ours? Theirs at their rate and ours at our rate. Not that hard.

Full disclosure: I'm on the 330 albeit hanging on with my fingernails!:)

Denny

Ferd149 06-10-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1900990)
Dude, that made me laugh, and then I realized it might be true!

Then I cried... like a little Negotiator!:D

Good one!:D

However, on a serious note........if the MEC turns it back, does the NC resign?

If they pass it to us and we turn it back, does the MEC resign?

Interesting times

300SMK 06-10-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1900945)
Search "Delta MEC Comm". Notice when you look under a post it might say "70 previous comments". Click there. They have all been deleted. Hundreds of negative comments deleted. Positive comments are allowed to stay. How does that make you feel about your union and how they conduct a fair and balanced TA presentation? Do we live in Iraq?


I cannot believe these jokers made it past C2012, this one is just downright arrogant. Looking forward to DL being the last choice for new hires... Not really :(


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gopher3 06-10-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1900995)
Reps are intimately familiar with language.

But they are a little more than busy right now.
In fact 44's fo rep was kind enough to explain the JV language to me.

SO, since 44 fo rep campaigned on a platform of scope, is his explanantion of the JV language overall positive or negative for us going forward?

Professor 06-10-2015 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by gopher3 (Post 1901021)
SO, since 44 fo rep campaigned on a platform of scope, is his explanantion of the JV language overall positive or negative for us going forward?


I'm. It going to speak for your rep. It would be unfair to him and you.

Sorry for the political answer.

Timbo 06-10-2015 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1901016)
Delta Air Lines Inc Stock: Profit Sharing Reduction Helps Offset 15% Increase, Says Credit Suisse

Credit Suisse noted that the fixed increase of 15% by the amendable date is slightly more than it expected, but the profit sharing offset is more significant at this point. With the 20% profit sharing threshold moving to $6 billion for all employees, the firm expects approximately $500 million of potential savings, compared to $2.5 billion of threshold. The firm believes that this will be large enough saving to offset the fixed increase of 15% for pilots, giving extra cost of approximately $400 million.

Add in all the other concessions and there you have it, yet another Cost Neutral contract in times of record profits. Aren't we proud.

Denny Crane 06-10-2015 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1901014)

Yeah they do. Looks like they are saying it will be cost positive (my words) for Delta. Saving the company $500 million a year. Of course that is assuming a profit of $6 billion. What were managements for casts for the next three years profits............................?

Denny


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