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chuck416 06-10-2015 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1901082)
Yeah, because the numbers supplied by management/dalpa have always been more accurate than companies that crunch numbers for a living all day every day.

^^^^this^^^

Vikz09 06-10-2015 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=GoCats67;1901064]Credit Suisse has math troubles!!
Assume Delta makes 6 Billion

Old method = 2.5B * 10% + 3.5B * 20% = 950 million for all emploees.

New method = 6B * 10% = 600 million for all employees.

Their not saying pilots ONLY. I have been saying for 2 days that this TA is funded by changes in profit sharing ( all employees) now factor in changes to the PTIX formula for PS (another 1%) and the endless productivity givebacks... The company may actually SAVE money.

EdGrimley 06-10-2015 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1901073)
I disagree with this idea that it should go to us to vote, I think they need to vote for what's in our best interest, which is clearly going back to the negotiating table and tweaking a few things. Going through an entire vote of the pilot group is so much more than just voting no and going back and changing a few percentages. Like give us 8, 8, 3, 3, (my example not meant to be taken literally as what I think we should get!) and make the profit sharing number 3.5 and change the lca trip hold to 25% and of course no retroactive sick leave verification that is absolutely ridiculous.

Not to mention there is a huge cost associated with the marketing blitz these guys will put on. When they are out to pass a TA at all costs, no expense will be spared.......in presenting a lopsided view of the TA. Lot's of FPL to go around every day 24/7 up to the vote. Get it guys!

Gunfighter 06-10-2015 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1901087)
I just signed a DPA card and put it in the envelope. If this goes to MEMRAT, going in mail TONIGHT. This TA is BS!!!

What a coincidence. I just printed mine too. If this gets to memrat, I'm sending a nice donation with it.

Sounds 06-10-2015 03:16 PM

Incoming tears.

Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1901081)
No one has any thoughts about my question.........

If they send it back, does the NC resign?

They will absolutely not resign. Donatelli has already telegraphed the strategy by saying that its : "not going to happen" regarding returning to the bargaining table with management.

DALPA/management will "punish" us by making every future offer worse than the previous to teach us a lesson to NEVER AGAIN cross them. That's why it's so important for the offensive reps to be recalled, the entire MEC administration purged, and begin again. Anything else allows management to use DALPA to execute the punishment strategy.

Carl

Purple Drank 06-10-2015 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1901067)
"They have a different view than me based on information I'm not privy too! I don't like it! RECALL" You should use the word "entitled" too to make your trolling complete.

Are you on FPL, too?

Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1901096)
Incoming tears.

No, hopefully we pilots will now execute our strategy.

Carl

Denny Crane 06-10-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1901096)
Incoming tears.

Very Professional.....:rolleyes:

Denny

Gunfighter 06-10-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1901094)
Not to mention there is a huge cost associated with the marketing blitz these guys will put on. When they are out to pass a TA at all costs, no expense will be spared.......in presenting a lopsided view of the TA. Lot's of FPL to go around every day 24/7 up to the vote. Get it guys!

Oh @#$% I didn't even think of the FPL during the propaganda blitz. If they vote yes, the reps have the FPL gravy train to ride. A vote in favor of memrat is a huge waste of union dues when the TA fails to meet many key objectives: Pay, Scope, Sick Leave, etc.


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