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flyallnite 06-10-2015 03:33 PM

Very disappointing to say the least. I will support the recall of anyone associated with this. They should have to live under it if it comes to pass.

944Turbo 06-10-2015 03:33 PM

What's the best way to get the NO vote out? I'm disgusted as well. ATL, SLC, and LAX guys and gals know what they need to do...

dalad 06-10-2015 03:33 PM

Boycott the Roadshows to send a message. No DPA for me, the ATL, LAX, SLC and the others need to be recalled.

EdGrimley 06-10-2015 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by roadrunner65 (Post 1901137)
Printing a DPA card as we speak. Sending a check too.

Delta Pilots Association - Donation Transaction

"By now, you may have seen that ALPA has released preliminary information explaining their Tentative Agreement. While we do not have all the language yet, it is clear that your Survey was discarded in favor of a cozy relationship with management. Cutting Profit Sharing by 50% for all profit from $2.5 Billion to $6 Billion is, by far, the greatest disconnect between ALPA and Line Pilot direction we have ever seen. Additional concessions in Scope, Sick Leave, Bidding, TLV and others combined with unbelievably low increases in pay, DC contribution, per diem, vacation, etc., plus the complete disregard for lowering health care costs for active and retirees, Door Pay, Mininum Daily Guarantee and others signal that ALPA has finally lost all connection with you, the Line Pilot.

DPA uses Open Surveys with Published Results to learn about and then pursue Line Pilot desires. These surveys tie DPA hands on issues securely through transparency and accountability. DPA could never bring you an early Tentative Agreement, with conditions in it that directly violate survey results. You would know it from the published survey results and you would reject it. You would then use our innovative Open Recall system to take down the rogue leadership who would attempt such a violation. Two clicks is all it would take.

What troubles us most is that the MEC Chairman specifically said that pilots have demanded, "DO NOT TOUCH MY PROFIT SHARING", and yet the MEC is now about to vote on a proposal that does exactly that. How they can justify going against your wishes in this era of incredible profit is beyond reason. It is clear.....it is time for change. THIS IS OUR TIME!"

Moondog 06-10-2015 03:36 PM

Forgive the new guy question but what is FPL?

TheManager 06-10-2015 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 1901136)
Here is what I just got:

For: LAX, ATL, INST, SLC, BUZZ, SEA FO REP

Against: MSP, DTW, SEA CAPT REP, NY, CVG FO REP

Not verified



LEC Chairman, ALPA Council ___ ___
100 Hartsfield Centre
Atlanta, GA, 30354

Dear Chairman ________,

This letter serves as written notice per ALPA CBL's that I/we as member(s) in good standing of ALPA Council ___ ___ formally request the following items to be placed on the next scheduled Council ___ ___ meeting agenda.

Items to be placed on the agenda:

The recall of LEC Council ____ ___ Representative ________________
The recall of LEC Council ____ ___ Representative ________________
The recall of LEC Council ____ ___ Representative ________________
The recall of LEC Council ____ ___ Representative ________________

Fraternally,

Printed name(s)
Signed names(s)
ALPA number(s)

Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 03:40 PM

The 8 reps that voted NO are going to be character slain like nothing they've ever seen.

As has already been said...SEA, SLC, LAX, ATL pilots...you know what has to be done here. Nestor never ceases to disappoint.

Carl

tomgoodman 06-10-2015 03:41 PM

Memory Rat has been notified. :rolleyes:

http://psychology.uiowa.edu/files/ps...le_400x318.jpg

EdGrimley 06-10-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 1901147)
Forgive the new guy question but what is FPL?

Your dues money is being used to sell you a lemon. FPL = Flight Pay Loss. A bunch of guys are being paid to post on these message boards, delete Facebook posts, "tightly control the message", etc. It's a clear misuse of funds, especially considering the message being presented is being falsified by sins of omission.

Carl Spackler 06-10-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 1901147)
Forgive the new guy question but what is FPL?

Flight Pay Loss. It's the mechanism for anyone that (is approved by the Union) to drop their trips and get paid for doing Union work. Like posting Union propaganda on forums.

Carl


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