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06-10-2015 | 11:02 AM
#7221
Straight QOL, homie
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Massive Concessions: The Firehose Effect.
The more I look into details (there are some good discussions on the chitchat forum), the more it seems like this is a firehose of concessions. A Medusa.
There is absolutely no way for our reps to wrap their heads around all the tweaks and gotchas in sick leave, AF/KLM, etc, in a week, much less two or three days.
If, IF, this goes to MEMRAT it will be a breeze for DALPA to sweep all the undesirable outcomes under the rug at road shows--there is just too much crap to wade through.
The more I look into details (there are some good discussions on the chitchat forum), the more it seems like this is a firehose of concessions. A Medusa.
There is absolutely no way for our reps to wrap their heads around all the tweaks and gotchas in sick leave, AF/KLM, etc, in a week, much less two or three days.
If, IF, this goes to MEMRAT it will be a breeze for DALPA to sweep all the undesirable outcomes under the rug at road shows--there is just too much crap to wade through.
06-10-2015 | 11:09 AM
#7223
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From: Kickin’ Back
06-10-2015 | 11:11 AM
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06-10-2015 | 11:12 AM
#7225
Wind the clock beoch
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That's part of the deception. It's semantics. The NC stated that the changes won't take place until the 2017 payout, which occurs in February. That payout is on wages earned for the calendar year beginning January 1, 2016.
What also doesn't take place until Jan 1, 2017 is the 1% DC increase. The sick leave changes not only take effect immediately but are also retroactive.
What also doesn't take place until Jan 1, 2017 is the 1% DC increase. The sick leave changes not only take effect immediately but are also retroactive.
06-10-2015 | 11:12 AM
#7226
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From: DAL FO
Btw, they have moved on to Section 23 (Scheduling) now...
06-10-2015 | 11:16 AM
#7227
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I also noticed that the increase to vaca doesn't take place until next April. Why the delay? (Let me guess, IT?)
Also, all other things being equal, the rates are 8, (6-5.74 = 0), 3, 3. Am I correct?
Also, all other things being equal, the rates are 8, (6-5.74 = 0), 3, 3. Am I correct?
06-10-2015 | 11:17 AM
#7228
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Does the TA just have to pass a simple majority in the MEC to go to the members?
Any idea where the votes are now (obviously there are some diehard "yes" and "no" voters)? How many swing votes and where are they leaning? Any ideas?
Any idea where the votes are now (obviously there are some diehard "yes" and "no" voters)? How many swing votes and where are they leaning? Any ideas?
06-10-2015 | 11:22 AM
#7229
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That is correct and I really don't know.
06-10-2015 | 11:23 AM
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From: DAL FO
The pay bumps you posted are correct IF the company makes $6.0B in profit. Anything under that and the 2nd number you posted starts going up, all the way down to $2.5B in profits where the 2nd number is 6
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