In the interest of accuracy, which sometimes is nice right?

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Ok, here is a quick list why this turd should be rejected. Feel free to ad to it:

1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year

2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount

3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)

4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180

5. More large RJ to DCI

6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.

7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017

8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze

9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true

10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?

11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus

These off the top of my head......

Denny

Would you mind also posting the "cons"? You know, those pesky things that reduce pilot requirements, cause stagnation and harm quality of life? Wait, what? Those weren't included?!

Renewing DPA card. Done with ALPA. I agree about TC though.....DPA needs someone that is not as polarizing to lead them and start the reform.

CH is against it.

Bump so I can read my own post....:)

Denny

I consider it a rehearsal, at a small, very senior base, that has a Captain rep who's well versed in 'communications.' they'll work out some kinks, then hit the campaign/propaganda trail. :cool:

DFW

Both TB and CH are against.

The Secretary-Treasurers had the chance to speak during the debate part but don't have a vote. DM is strongly for it.

Sorry about the large image.

12. Ab Initio. Very little detail so far but this, along with more large RJ's, breaths new life into outsourcing at the "regional" level.

It helps management produce more pilots in a short period of time and has been shown to produce pilots that are not safe. They lack experience that traditional vetting provides. It's bad for the profession in multiple ways.

Delta and other regional are throwing $80K additional money over 3 or 4 year to regional guys willing to stick around just so they can keep the RJ experiment/ whipsaw alive. I imagine they will lobby (with ALPA's help) to reduce required flight time and pay pilot candidates to go through pilot puppy academies to fill seats under contract. Why ALPA would join in this affair is anybodies guess. Oh yeah, Richard asked. Kill it now before it grows.

Ok, here is a quick list why this turd should be rejected. Feel free to ad to it:

1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year

2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount

3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)

4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180

5. More large RJ to DCI

6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.

7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017

8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze

9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true

10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?

11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus

These off the top of my head......

Denny