Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1902767)

That's because the SAME GUY who helped bring you LOA 51 is running our Strategic Planning Committee today!

THE SAME GUY! Initials are RH.

He was involved in LOA 51 too, and a former CVG rep. He's always been an "Appeasement" guy. He was recently getting paid DALPA trip drops while 'consulting' for UAL on their SLI.

Capitulate early, capitulate often, keep the Delta money train rolling.

His brother is a financial guy, I wonder how many shares of Delta Stock they both own.

That would be the only rational explanation for this POS TA.

If our MEC cannot deliver us something BETTER than this, I think we do need to clean house.

Have you read the letter from the NYC LEC Chairman yet? Great letter.

We need to install him as MEC Chairman tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1902747)

Unless the automatic yes voters can be reached.

That's going to be the key in this battle. There are unfortunately a large number of Delta pilots who don't attend road shows, who certainly don't read this forum and who are barely aware that we have a new contract, let alone know what's in it.
They have busy lives and don't want to be bothered. Union politics bores them.
They figure they pay a lot of dues to ALPA to worry about all that stuff and they will do whatever ALPA recommends.

Those are the guys who have to be reached.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1902784)

Had a 747A guy poke his head in the cockpit to say hi the other day. He says, "Did you guys see the rates on the TA! $330/Hr! Wow!" He was almost drooling. I asked how he liked the sick time, EASK swap, LCA bidding, etc. Looked like a deer in the headlights. Said he hadn't looked at any of the other stuff because it probably won't effect him.

As bad as it is, if we don't somehow match the sales job the MEC is doing, it will be a close one.

Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1902787)

Just catching up on posts, I will respond to some of the questions as I can here on the JV and anything anyone else has asked me.

To answer someone's FPL question. Its 4days. I got paid for one 4d trip to attend the MEC meeting. And the remainder of my time on here and elsewhere, lounges, phone calls etc. will be on my now time until we vote on a TA.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1902792)

Parking the entire 747 fleet in 18 months will affect him, I hope you asked him when he was going to A330 school...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1902707)

Wow. You are laser-focused on rates. . Nowhere did I say anything about a specific pay rate increase I expected.

There are other forms of "gains" besides hourly rates.

Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1902542)

Guess RA told them he needs it done before 2nd Quarter #s come out.

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 1902686)

I'm okay with my name on there.

I don't think those on FPL posting have an evil agenda. I think they're trying to get the facts out there. That said, they don't have all the angles figured out on this complicated TA.

I know what you're saying about "this environment". I think that too but I also look at APPL with 1/5 of a trillion in the bank and printing money and their employees are paid what they're worth. They're not all getting 100% raises. There is not a 1:1 correlation with profit to pay raise. I think our pay rates are based on what American just got. They got we were making based on our profit sharing. It's a vicious circle. We're not going to get pay rates 15% more than American plus a profit sharing check for 20%.