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06-12-2015 | 06:28 PM

#8241

Bananie

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Originally Posted by ERflyer

Professor,

Could you explain this one when you get a chance?

1.E.9.

The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.

Where did that come from? And why?

I think pretty much before Delta could have a foreign partner and paint the planes like Delta planes and act like it's Delta. Now they can't unless the MEC approves it. This is a gain.

06-12-2015 | 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananie

I think pretty much before Delta could have a foreign partner and paint the planes like Delta planes and act like it's Delta. Now they can't unless the MEC approves it. This is a gain.

I don't see that discretion in the current scope. They may need that for thier new Asian acquisition. Codeshare an JV maybe but not Delta branding and paint.

06-12-2015 | 06:34 PM

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I see that we changed 3.B.4. to include profit sharing in our hourly rate to compare against AA and United. So .55 is the only raise that we will ever trigger under that protection.

06-12-2015 | 06:39 PM

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Bananie

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

I don't see that discretion in the current scope. They may need that for thier new Asian acquisition.

I think our current scope allows them to do it whenever management wants to do it. You don't see the discretion because it's not prohibited. Now they need to ask our permission. This is a gain because they have to ask first and we have the right to say no. Before they could just do it and we had no recourse.

06-12-2015 | 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by boog123

I think those that commute would lose at least 1 1/2 day off and the additional hotel costs. There is a reason these "little" things changed and it's not for your benefit.

Don't worry, ERflyer will comp your room with his extra $50k.

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06-12-2015 | 06:48 PM

#8246

notEnuf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananie

Reading the current 1.E. it doesn't allow it. Delta branding. 1.C.2.d. prohibits it. The new TA gives Mike Donatelli that authority. Why the change?

06-12-2015 | 07:08 PM

#8247

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

I see that we changed 3.B.4. to include profit sharing in our hourly rate to compare against AA and United. So .55 is the only raise that we will ever trigger under that protection.

Unless this gets voted down....

06-12-2015 | 07:11 PM

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Denny Crane

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Okay, this conversation is degenerating and not conducive to spirited debate.

Please take it elsewhere.

Denny

06-12-2015 | 07:13 PM

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Bananie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notEnuf

Reading the current 1.E. it doesn't allow it. Delta branding. 1.C.2.d. prohibits it. The new TA gives Mike Donatelli that authority. Why the change?

You missed the first sentence of 1E:

Section 1 C. will not apply to international partner flying under Section 1 E.

This new language provides that same protection for international partner flying on the discretion of the MEC. This is a gain.

06-12-2015 | 07:14 PM

#8250

flyerc90

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This may have been posted already. But if you are on Facebook, join this group:

Delta Pilots Against Contract 2015 TA

350+ joins in less than 2days. Just sayin.