Scoop

[QUOTE=Bananie;1903971]Here is how I see it:

For every $21,500 I get in pay, lose from 0-5700 in profit sharing
Sick leave is a paperwork hassle if you use a lot of sick leave. If you don't use a lot of sick leave, no change. This hysteria about medical records is stupid, is Delta going to sell your medical records to the Russian mafia?
RJ Scope is better, less RJ's more mainline
AF/KLM cuts out Heathrow from the ratio which is good because that's where the money is. The rest is just protecting where we are. Seriously, does anyone truly think a business man would tolerate going across the Atlantic in a 737 or baby bus. Get real. In fact our flying across the atlantic is growing just not enough for the old ratio.
OE trip drop changes are bad for those guys that get them, but it's difficult to defend a practice designed to pay people to sit at home
We give 1 hour on TLV and we get better rotations from the RCC
Vacation goes up by :15 minutes
DC plan goes up by 1%
A bunch of other small gains



"We get better rotations from the RCC."


Do you really believe that? A computer builds the rotations based on inputs. Anytime the rotations get worse we are told that "We have to minimize credit."

So we are going to add an hour to the TLV yet get better rotations?

So they have not been trying to build better rotations until now or are they going to apply RCC inputs that increase credit?

I am very skeptical about this.

Scoop

Denny Crane

Take off the blinders and you will.

Denny

Pilotfo64

Here it is,


Fun with numbers...OE Recovery.
So there are at least 37 7ER new hire FOs finishing sim training in the month of June. The TA states 75 projected block hours for each new hire wide body FO to finish OE/TOE. So we have 2,775 hours there...first 25% awarded to the lucky senior pilots leaves 2,081ish hours not awarded for OE recovery. That times the new rate of $167 for a 12 yr FO (the guys that usually get check airman trips) equals $347,568 money saved by the company for that month. A full year of training gets us $4,170,825 saved....and that's just on the ER!!! How was my math? Plus, now you have extra guys sitting around on reserve so you don't have to give out green slips!! Double score for the company!Supporting docs attached.

georgetg

Capacity vs Block Hours:
Measuring capacity (EASK Equivalent Seat Kilometers) to account for flying share hurts us when JV capacity is reduced. For every AF A380 cut, Delta cut nearly three (2.8) 767ERs to keep the percentage even.
But wait, not only has the JV cut capacity across the Atlantic, but Delta is flying less than the required share of the reduced flying. In short we got hit with a double whammy.

As the European economy rebounds we are looking much better. With added capacity the existing agreement disproportionately favors Delta pilots. For every AF A380 route added, Delta must add nearly three (2.8) 767ER or two A330 routes to maintain the same share. With Delta averaging less than our minimum share, the flying increase to match must be even larger. We stand to gain exponential international flying.
By switching to Aircraft Block Hours now we will fail to capture that increase but lock in the disproportionate hit we have taken so far.

Cheers
George

RetiredFTS

I just got off the phone (regarding the medical stuff) with the SEA CA Rep who is also on the Government Affairs Committee. He said one additional reason to not pass this sick leave change is because the wording is counter to the arguments the GAC is using to fight the FAA's proposed changes to their fit to fly process after the German Wings incident. He sent me these links if interested:



https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=83005


http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/committees/documents/media/Pilot%20Fitness%20ARC%20Charter.pdf


http://www.nycaviation.com/2015/05/pilot-fitness-aviation-rulemaking-committee-name-proves-wrong-philosophy/#.VXI8BOdQCGM


http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20150528/NEWS06/150529847/trade-group-member-to-co-chair-faa-pilot-fitness-committee

qball

I'm not going to accuse anyone here of lying as that hinders a healthy debate, but I will say that DAPLA grossly misrepresented their "No Deal is Better Than a Bad Deal" banner not long ago.

According to Donatellis words, I don't think "No Deal" was even in their thought process.

His "fired all the bullets", "extracted every penny" and "if don't accept this deal" rhetoric clearly shows that "NO Deal" was ever an option in their thinking.

No plan for what to do should the MEC had done it's job and sent this back.

Now this "expedited negotiation, expedited vote" runaway train is barreling down the tracks and the only emergency brake is our NO votes.

Wasatch Phantom

I'll come out of APC retirement to provide a real world example of the exact kind of verbiage you can expect:

Background: Over a year go I got hurt in an OJI. Surgery was required and I was out for about 11 months. Delta uses a company called ESIS to handle their worker's compensation claims. The claims administrators have been good. However in one of the early conversations I was asked if I'd be willing to work with a "nurse case manager". I asked what that was and got an explanation. I was okay with it. A few days later the nurse case manager calls, we have a nice conversation about the service she can provide and says "I'll send you some forms to sign".

The forms arrived and I read them. I refused to sign. The next paragraphs are taken verbatim from those forms. Ask yourself if you'd be willing to sign these.

"I, the undersigned, do hereby authorize any physician or other medical or mental health professional, hospital, or other medical-related facility, school or vocational program to provide Coventry Health Care Workers Compensation, Inc. and its affiliates and subsidiaries ("Coventry") and its authorized representatives Private Health Information ("PHI") verbally or in writing concerning medical advice, care, treatment, or services provided to me. PHI means any and all records, reports, or other medical information, bills and referral letters whether generated by myself, Coventry, or a third party. PHI includes information relating to mental illness, use of drugs, use of alcohol, or diagnosis of AIDS/HIV, for the purpose of providing services to me in connection with my worker's compensation, disability, or auto claim, or other claim for benefits or coverage. I understand that by signing this release I may be waiving certain rights in accordance with state and/or federal laws that allow for waiver of those rights."

Skipping ahead...

"By signing below I give my permission to disclose my health information to Coventry and its representatives. I understand that my health information may be transmitted by facsimile, electronic mail, or regular mail. I further understand that PHI disclosed pursuant to this authorization may be redisclosed by Coventry and may no longer be protected from disclosure to others by state and/or federal law. I completely release Coventry from any and all liability which may result or could result from the appropriate release of such information in accordance with state and or federal laws."

That ALPA would negotiate away protections provided by HIPAA is absolutely astounding to me.

Ferd149

Good stuff!! Thanks for calling JC, I flew with him right after the MEC sent C'12 out. He wasn't happy then and why I'll bet he ran for rep. With that said, I don't know how he voted on C'12.

Ferd

PS Heyyyyyyyyyy........is that a U of AZ hat

No Piddy for da Kitty

Denny Crane

Thanks for that WP. All I can say is WOW!

Denny

georgetg

3-Year Look Back:
When Alitalia joined the JV we modified PWA 1.P in 2010 via MOU 14, to account for the extra flying Alitalia was bringing to the European side of the JV. We managed to secure a gain from a 47% share to a 50% share of the JV Capacity, but gave the company a 3-year window to comply with a 1.5% up/down tolerance. Failure to meet the 3-year share minimum average starts a 1-year clock to cure the contractual breach.

The first 3-year time frame to measure the 50% was April 1, 2011 to March 31, 2014. Going forward we will measure the 3-years average every April 1st.
Looking back on April 1, 2014 the company failed to reach even the lower limit of 48.5% for our share of flying. This started the one-year cure period. The company had 1 year to meet the goal by March 31, 2015. Again measured on a 3-year look-back.

On April 1, 2015, Delta failed to meet even the lower limit which was the basis for the grievance that netted $30M.

Unfortunately the problem of flying less than the contractual share remains. On March 31, 2016 there will be another 3-year look-back measurement. And because we have flown well under our share for the last 4 years, the company will once again come up short and will be subject to another grievance.
We've accumulated a 4-year flying debt. Delta has made one payment. We have three more years of accumulated underages to go. Delta still isn't showing signs it is interested in reversing the trend.

By switching to a 1-year look back now, we are resetting the clock, discarding accumulated flying debt, opening a new 2-year window and won't have any recourse until April 1, 2017. Why would we do that?

Cheers
George