Details on Delta TA
#8511
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Joined: Jun 2015
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From: CA
Question for the moderators- with something as important as this TA, we need REAL answers. Not skewed half truths. I'd like to propose that those caught selling dishonest information or just riling the troops (ie Sharpest Tool) be banned if it appears they are doing it on purpose.
One example: "Only 180 first officers will be effected when 25% of lines are held back for LCA's". This was repeated several times here by one ALPA representative even though it's pretty easy to see that statement is not accurate or true.
This is a thread for Delta pilots. We have a TA that requires accurate information (that means pro and con) to properly vet and approve/dissaprove. Selling pro's only and not giving an honest representation is reducing the value of this message board and in a sense damaging Internet Brands, the owner. ALPA, having removed it's own message board has apparently decided to use this as a forum to communicate information. That information needs to be accurate if they are going to use it for that purpose.
Related to this above, we have a poster (Professor) who verified he is in fact here on behalf of DALPA (collecting flight pay loss). He stated his mission is to answer questions regarding the TA. That is what he has been sent here to do by DALPA. Since he is getting paid for his duties, and is part of an official organization, isn't it fair that he should have to identify himself by name and position with ALPA? That goes for the other ALPA representatives here as well. They aren't just guys posting to ask questions or banter. They are official ALPA guys flooding this board with information, much of which is proving to lack consistent accuracy. I don't mind having ALPA guys here (I welcome it) as long as they are honest. I believe them owning their real name and position with ALPA will help cut down on the half truths and misdirection.
Anyone care to second this motion?
One example: "Only 180 first officers will be effected when 25% of lines are held back for LCA's". This was repeated several times here by one ALPA representative even though it's pretty easy to see that statement is not accurate or true.
This is a thread for Delta pilots. We have a TA that requires accurate information (that means pro and con) to properly vet and approve/dissaprove. Selling pro's only and not giving an honest representation is reducing the value of this message board and in a sense damaging Internet Brands, the owner. ALPA, having removed it's own message board has apparently decided to use this as a forum to communicate information. That information needs to be accurate if they are going to use it for that purpose.
Related to this above, we have a poster (Professor) who verified he is in fact here on behalf of DALPA (collecting flight pay loss). He stated his mission is to answer questions regarding the TA. That is what he has been sent here to do by DALPA. Since he is getting paid for his duties, and is part of an official organization, isn't it fair that he should have to identify himself by name and position with ALPA? That goes for the other ALPA representatives here as well. They aren't just guys posting to ask questions or banter. They are official ALPA guys flooding this board with information, much of which is proving to lack consistent accuracy. I don't mind having ALPA guys here (I welcome it) as long as they are honest. I believe them owning their real name and position with ALPA will help cut down on the half truths and misdirection.
Anyone care to second this motion?
#8513
Question for the moderators- with something as important as this TA, we need REAL answers. Not skewed half truths. I'd like to propose that those caught selling dishonest information or just riling the troops (ie Sharpest Tool) be banned if it appears they are doing it on purpose.
One example: "Only 180 first officers will be effected when 25% of lines are held back for LCA's". This was repeated several times here by one ALPA representative even though it's pretty easy to see that statement is not accurate or true.
This is a thread for Delta pilots. We have a TA that requires accurate information (that means pro and con) to properly vet and approve/dissaprove. Selling pro's only and not giving an honest representation is reducing the value of this message board and in a sense damaging Internet Brands, the owner. ALPA, having removed it's own message board has apparently decided to use this as a forum to communicate information. That information needs to be accurate if they are going to use it for that purpose.
Related to this above, we have a poster (Professor) who verified he is in fact here on behalf of DALPA (collecting flight pay loss). He stated his mission is to answer questions regarding the TA. That is what he has been sent here to do by DALPA. Since he is getting paid for his duties, and is part of an official organization, isn't it fair that he should have to identify himself by name and position with ALPA? That goes for the other ALPA representatives here as well. They aren't just guys posting to ask questions or banter. They are official ALPA guys flooding this board with information, much of which is proving to lack consistent accuracy. I don't mind having ALPA guys here (I welcome it) as long as they are honest. I believe them owning their real name and position with ALPA will help cut down on the half truths and misdirection.
Anyone care to second this motion?
One example: "Only 180 first officers will be effected when 25% of lines are held back for LCA's". This was repeated several times here by one ALPA representative even though it's pretty easy to see that statement is not accurate or true.
This is a thread for Delta pilots. We have a TA that requires accurate information (that means pro and con) to properly vet and approve/dissaprove. Selling pro's only and not giving an honest representation is reducing the value of this message board and in a sense damaging Internet Brands, the owner. ALPA, having removed it's own message board has apparently decided to use this as a forum to communicate information. That information needs to be accurate if they are going to use it for that purpose.
Related to this above, we have a poster (Professor) who verified he is in fact here on behalf of DALPA (collecting flight pay loss). He stated his mission is to answer questions regarding the TA. That is what he has been sent here to do by DALPA. Since he is getting paid for his duties, and is part of an official organization, isn't it fair that he should have to identify himself by name and position with ALPA? That goes for the other ALPA representatives here as well. They aren't just guys posting to ask questions or banter. They are official ALPA guys flooding this board with information, much of which is proving to lack consistent accuracy. I don't mind having ALPA guys here (I welcome it) as long as they are honest. I believe them owning their real name and position with ALPA will help cut down on the half truths and misdirection.
Anyone care to second this motion?
Carl
#8515
#8518
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 357
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From: CA
It has just come to my attention that one of the moderators here is none other than ACL65, an acting DALPA council rep that voted yes on this TA. That would seem to be a huge conflict of interest. Can moderators read private messages sent between members here?
#8519
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Joined: Feb 2008
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Question for the moderators- with something as important as this TA, we need REAL answers. Not skewed half truths. I'd like to propose that those caught selling dishonest information or just riling the troops (ie Sharpest Tool) be banned if it appears they are doing it on purpose.
#8520
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Those who are excited by this POS are "one issue Yes voters." That issue is pay rates.
For me, QOL, privacy, and PRIDE are every bit as important as pay rates. More important.
I won't be able to enjoy the money if my kids hate me for being gone more; if my wife leaves me because I'm so damn exhausted when I am home; or if I'm dead, because Delta doesn't give a **** if I expire the day after I retire...after flying my life away. This POS is a complete capitulation.
If we don't stand up now, it will it only get worse going forward.
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