When A 777A Retires........
09-05-2015 | 07:35 AM
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When A 777A Retires........
how many initial training events does it trigger in the waterfall?
My count 8-10.
When we add the 190s 10-12.
500 retirements times an average of 6 initial training events per retirement (not every retiree is a 777A) equals 3000 initial schools in 12 months.
800 retirements X 6 = 4800 initials in 12 months.
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My count 8-10.
When we add the 190s 10-12.
500 retirements times an average of 6 initial training events per retirement (not every retiree is a 777A) equals 3000 initial schools in 12 months.
800 retirements X 6 = 4800 initials in 12 months.
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09-05-2015 | 11:52 AM
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how many initial training events does it trigger in the waterfall?
My count 8-10.
When we add the 190s 10-12.
500 retirements times an average of 6 initial training events per retirement (not every retiree is a 777A) equals 3000 initial schools in 12 months.
800 retirements X 6 = 4800 initials in 12 months.
Got milk? (Sims) (instructors)
Food for thought
My count 8-10.
When we add the 190s 10-12.
500 retirements times an average of 6 initial training events per retirement (not every retiree is a 777A) equals 3000 initial schools in 12 months.
800 retirements X 6 = 4800 initials in 12 months.
Got milk? (Sims) (instructors)
Food for thought
This is exactly why the IOE trip drop issue is huge. Sure DALPA in their infinite wisdom looked back and said "Gee, if we had it back when" it would only have affected 2% of Pilots. Even if you believe the 2% number the fact that they totally overlook the 2nd and 3rd order effects makes it dubious but more importantly looking back is meaningless.
Is any Delta FO ever going bid the June 2015 month again? The question is what will June 2018 look like? June 2021?
Is it any wonder the company wanted this off the table now - every month that goes by our leverage on this issue grows.
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09-05-2015 | 12:27 PM
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This is exactly why the IOE trip drop issue is huge. Sure DALPA in their infinite wisdom looked back and said "Gee, if we had it back when" it would only have affected 2% of Pilots. Even if you believe the 2% number the fact that they totally overlook the 2nd and 3rd order effects makes it dubious but more importantly looking back is meaningless.
Is any Delta FO ever going bid the June 2015 month again? The question is what will June 2018 look like? June 2021?
Is it any wonder the company wanted this off the table now - every month that goes by our leverage on this issue grows.
Scoop
Is any Delta FO ever going bid the June 2015 month again? The question is what will June 2018 look like? June 2021?
Is it any wonder the company wanted this off the table now - every month that goes by our leverage on this issue grows.
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It is not in my job description to fix what management is paid millions to break.
09-05-2015 | 12:42 PM
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If, however, we choose to make concessions they must be of short duration and temporary.
Our execs get paid tens of millions to run the air line. Fixing their mistakes is not our problem.
09-05-2015 | 01:33 PM
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This is exactly why the IOE trip drop issue is huge. Sure DALPA in their infinite wisdom looked back and said "Gee, if we had it back when" it would only have affected 2% of Pilots. Even if you believe the 2% number the fact that they totally overlook the 2nd and 3rd order effects makes it dubious but more importantly looking back is meaningless.
Is any Delta FO ever going bid the June 2015 month again? The question is what will June 2018 look like? June 2021?
Is it any wonder the company wanted this off the table now - every month that goes by our leverage on this issue grows.
Scoop
Is any Delta FO ever going bid the June 2015 month again? The question is what will June 2018 look like? June 2021?
Is it any wonder the company wanted this off the table now - every month that goes by our leverage on this issue grows.
Scoop
The official comments from the negotiating committee stated this would effect most FO's not 2%.
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09-05-2015 | 02:37 PM
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Of course Dalpa never said it would only effect 2% of the pilots. What they actually said in all the communications was that it would result in about 2% of the FO rotations being removed. Slight difference in the statements.
The official comments from the negotiating committee stated this would effect most FO's not 2%.
The official comments from the negotiating committee stated this would effect most FO's not 2%.
09-05-2015 | 03:29 PM
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Of course Dalpa never said it would only effect 2% of the pilots. What they actually said in all the communications was that it would result in about 2% of the FO rotations being removed. Slight difference in the statements.
The official comments from the negotiating committee stated this would effect most FO's not 2%.
The official comments from the negotiating committee stated this would effect most FO's not 2%.
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