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Old 09-05-2015 | 05:30 PM
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Are you saying you cannot avail yourself of the current plan?
Most of us don't benefit from it. Those who can scared others enough to make it a concern.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
Most of us don't benefit from it. Those who can scared others enough to make it a concern.
So, I guess seriority has its privileges both here and in other areas?
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Old 09-05-2015 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by qball
So, I guess seriority has its privileges both here and in other areas?
PS. I can't hold 777/744/330a. Its a seniority thing.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
Most of us don't benefit from it. Those who can scared others enough to make it a concern.
That being the case, you needn't focus the survey on 65%...or even 16% to get you to 51%. Just focus on that 2% and the rest of us good sheep will follow along.

Oh, and what sailingfun did earlier in responding to me is known as a red herring to day 1 logic students.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 06:32 PM
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Dalpa must have authorized the rocky mad dog persona to start posting again. They kept it on ice leading up to the recall vote. Smart move. Not really a consensus builder. More of a "what's wrong with Dalpa" in every paragraph he types.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 07:04 PM
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Well, I could see where the argument is that the impact is really small.

Because we don't even hardly have any 777As. We're not United with 107 777s and 744s running around. We've got like... 18? 2% of the fleet?

It's like they preplanned the pilot shortage by using JVs and shrinking the 777 fleet to where it doesn't matter. The OE thing was just icing on the cake.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 07:12 PM
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I love the "we got the A350-900 up to B777-200 rates." Its exactly the same size airplane. If you can't improve the rates on an equal size more efficient airplane, then I guess you say status quo is an accomplishment.
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Old 09-05-2015 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
Most of us don't benefit from it. Those who can scared others enough to make it a concern.


OK, I will try this again. The past impact was negligible. The current impact is small but increasing. The important thing to consider is the future.

Many FO's will benefit from this in the very near future.

So if this is really a "must have" for the company lets not just give it away!

Finally a question - If the IOE trip drops are negligible and don't have a significant impact on productivity then why was/is it a "must have" for the company?

Answer - Because the company has the foresight to look forward and plan ahead when the impact will be huge.

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Old 09-05-2015 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I love the "we got the A350-900 up to B777-200 rates." Its exactly the same size airplane. If you can't improve the rates on an equal size more efficient airplane, then I guess you say status quo is an accomplishment.
Maybe they didn't know that? Like, remember if we vote this down it's straight to the PEB?

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Old 09-06-2015 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I love the "we got the A350-900 up to B777-200 rates." Its exactly the same size airplane. If you can't improve the rates on an equal size more efficient airplane, then I guess you say status quo is an accomplishment.
So in your universe having the A350 at 777 rates was a "fail?" At least your screen name is accurate.
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