Do not vote Joe Thomas for C44
10-11-2015 | 04:16 PM
#101
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From: A320 Left seat
Members who commit sick leave abuse steal from the pilot group by way of added costs associated with their fraud which diminish our profit sharing checks. The verification modifications were an attempt to reduce that fraud ( costs ). One very tangible benefit would have been larger profit sharing checks for us all.
I'd rather lose a little profit sharing and make sure everyone is happy and healthy when they show up to work.
Your arguments are weak Joe, and I hope you don't actually think that you have any chance of representing us.
Try a different route to a management job if you want one, cause this one ain't it. Sorry
10-11-2015 | 04:33 PM
#102
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ummm....a little explanation may be in order. you are conflicted about the "both" sides agreeing to it being addressed only because you assume alpa and the pilot group are on the 'same' side.
I have NO doubt "both" sides agreed it needed to be 'addressed'.....the both sides being management...and alpa.
I have NO doubt "both" sides agreed it needed to be 'addressed'.....the both sides being management...and alpa.
10-11-2015 | 04:34 PM
#103
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It also makes it more difficult for sick people to call in sick. I have no doubt that if we give management a carte Blanche authorization to use any "designee" to determine whether we are sick or not and thus determine if we get paid or not for that sick time, some guys won't take the chance of calling in sick and will just show up to work. I don't want to work next to that guy. I don't want to get sick on a trip because of that.
I'd rather lose a little profit sharing and make sure everyone is happy and healthy when they show up to work.
Your arguments are weak Joe, and I hope you don't actually think that you have any chance of representing us.
Try a different route to a management job if you want one, cause this one ain't it. Sorry
I'd rather lose a little profit sharing and make sure everyone is happy and healthy when they show up to work.
Your arguments are weak Joe, and I hope you don't actually think that you have any chance of representing us.
Try a different route to a management job if you want one, cause this one ain't it. Sorry
10-11-2015 | 04:36 PM
#104
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So you are talking about data our banished MEC handed to us to prove the company's point during the shameful cram down/dues wasting road show to educate us on how fraudulent our fellow pilots are so we accept a consession filled TA? (Takes a deep breath from the run on sentence
) PLEEEEEEEAAAAASE!
10-11-2015 | 05:12 PM
#106
Straight QOL, homie
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Are you one of Jim Graham's boys?
I'm done pretending you are relevant.
Last edited by Scoop; 10-11-2015 at 10:32 PM.
10-11-2015 | 06:11 PM
#107
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So I'm just a poolie but my buddy at SWA said that if you are sick you call skeds with your employee ID number and say I can't fly I'm sick. Done.
seems to me like this is pretty simple and the company can budget for all people to use 100%. Otherwise the enforcement starts to cost more than the payouts.
seems to me like this is pretty simple and the company can budget for all people to use 100%. Otherwise the enforcement starts to cost more than the payouts.
10-11-2015 | 07:10 PM
#108
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From: LAX ERA
I think it's interesting that the "spin" on the sick leave verification has changed in the last few days. There appears to be an effort to keep the TA15 sick language in whatever new TA comes forward.
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
10-11-2015 | 07:50 PM
#109
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From: Poodle Whisperer
I think it's interesting that the "spin" on the sick leave verification has changed in the last few days. There appears to be an effort to keep the TA15 sick language in whatever new TA comes forward.
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
Fools will be fools.
Btw- the 190s have not been moved on and no cancellations of any 737 orders/options by DL have occurred.
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