Do not vote Joe Thomas for C44
10-11-2015 | 08:57 PM
#111
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I think it's interesting that the "spin" on the sick leave verification has changed in the last few days. There appears to be an effort to keep the TA15 sick language in whatever new TA comes forward.
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
We seem to have moved from
- You're too lazy to get a Dr note
to
- How can support those who abuse the sick leave system. Just look at the data, it's real.
We need to find a system that will be acceptable to the pilot group. I would suggest it's a stop on the pathway to "yes".
Ferd,
You know what has really happened?
DALPA and the company have added 1/3 of the entire pilot group to the list of pilots that realizes the universe won't implode if you vote no.
When you remove the fear of a no vote (which I think exists) you now actually have to come back with something good or you get no again.
10-11-2015 | 10:12 PM
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We don't want that. That's why we agreed to the sick leave concession in C2012. The sick leave concessions in the failed TA were about making it easy for the company to abuse our sick leave
That's not true anymore. One of the sides got thrown out and replaced for that view however.
Carl
10-11-2015 | 10:16 PM
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Two pilots.
Two.
Carl
10-11-2015 | 10:20 PM
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Then you incentivise people to fly when they really are sick. The proposal to credit a pilot's enhanced disability account with a portion of unused sick leave was a move in the direction of a bank.
Don't abuse sick leave, the Union can defend you and you can't be intimidated.
Don't abuse sick leave, the Union can defend you and you can't be intimidated.
You're all about pilots flying while sick...you're just fighting over who should provide the pressure to do so.
Carl
10-12-2015 | 05:06 AM
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I'm entrusted with thousands of lives and millions of dollars each year, yet need a note from mommy when I'm sick?!
Major fail DALPA... I will not entertain anything worse than what we currently have...
In fact, we should be pushing for our pre-bankruptcy 300hrs with no verification.
We are at the top of all performance metrics, making more money than at any time since the Wright Brothers, and there are Delta pilots wanting to make MAJOR CONCESSIONS in our contract?!
Maybe THEY need to call in sick!
10-12-2015 | 05:15 AM
#116
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More to the point...
This Joe yo yo is NOT a real candidate... he is flame bait to make the old guard candidates look more reasonable... classic political move.
In fact, don't be surprised to see him bow out at the nth hour before the vote.
If your Council 44 and you have any hope for RESTORATION, there is only one choice for your ticket...
Sam DeRosa
Scott Martin (0961094 write-in)
Jimmy Johnson
Chris Kern
The company is making more money than ever before dreamed of in the history of aviation...
We are no longer in bankruptcy!
There is ZERO need for CONCESSIONS!
The time for RESTORATION is NOW!
This Joe yo yo is NOT a real candidate... he is flame bait to make the old guard candidates look more reasonable... classic political move.
In fact, don't be surprised to see him bow out at the nth hour before the vote.
If your Council 44 and you have any hope for RESTORATION, there is only one choice for your ticket...
Sam DeRosa
Scott Martin (0961094 write-in)
Jimmy Johnson
Chris Kern
The company is making more money than ever before dreamed of in the history of aviation...
We are no longer in bankruptcy!
There is ZERO need for CONCESSIONS!
The time for RESTORATION is NOW!
10-12-2015 | 05:51 AM
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Members who commit sick leave abuse steal from the pilot group by way of added costs associated with their fraud which diminish our profit sharing checks. The verification modifications were an attempt to reduce that fraud ( costs ). One very tangible benefit would have been larger profit sharing checks for us all.
10-12-2015 | 05:54 AM
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As I've said on here several times, I asked the P2P guys on the DALPA Facebook page and one of our really smart rumored P2P guy on here "who is going to be the 3rd party vendor" that was going to do the verifications? All that anyone could tell me was that it wasn't going to be Sedgwick. That's a big detail not worked out prior to putting the TA out for a vote.
So no, I can't prove a negative, but it seems Farmer Logic to believe the contractor bidding for the gig would have to show a plan for reducing sick leave. I would suggest it was going to be a paperwork war just to get paid for your sick call......after that, a lot of guys would fly sick just to avoid the hassle.
Ferd
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