Do not vote Joe Thomas for C44
10-09-2015 | 08:14 AM
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I don't know him. But as a former USAF commander, he sounds like a tool.
10-09-2015 | 08:34 AM
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I guess I should rephrase... I have worked for some OUTSTANDING commanders (who are here at mother D). The good commanders/leaders earn respect and back their subordinates. They don't have to remind everyone how important they were/are.
10-09-2015 | 09:27 AM
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From: I got into this business so I wouldn't have to work.
Anyone who has to remind us they were colonels in the past life yells volumes.
And this idea that sick leave abuse was the ONLY thing that kept this TA from passing is ludicrous. It was MUCH more than that.
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10-09-2015 | 09:49 AM
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I haven't read his letter, but I have to say, I agree with his angle.
We've been complaining, myself too, about the new policy in the rejected TA, and most have said, "You can't penalize us all for the actions of a few! Go after the abusers but leave the rest of us alone."
That's what he says he wants to do. I'd love to have 300 hours of sick every year if I needed it, but some would use every hour whether they needed it or not. Not many, but a few would.
I'm not saying that qualifies him to represent us, but many on here have said if they have issues with the abusers to go after them and leave the rest of us alone and trust us to know when we are fit to fly and when we aren't.
We've been complaining, myself too, about the new policy in the rejected TA, and most have said, "You can't penalize us all for the actions of a few! Go after the abusers but leave the rest of us alone."
That's what he says he wants to do. I'd love to have 300 hours of sick every year if I needed it, but some would use every hour whether they needed it or not. Not many, but a few would.
I'm not saying that qualifies him to represent us, but many on here have said if they have issues with the abusers to go after them and leave the rest of us alone and trust us to know when we are fit to fly and when we aren't.
But that is the catch. The company simply wants us to fix this problem. And they want to do so with onerous plans that affect all of us negatively. So since they have the ability to bring this evidence forward and terminate the abusers, you have to ask why they want to fix this so called abuse.
In my opinion it is not really about the few abusers. The company wants to create more efficiencies in their favor. This is but one more item to give them greater pilot utilization.
And what do our Moakist union boys do? Jump right on it for the company. Sheep.
10-09-2015 | 09:53 AM
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Okay, i have somethings to say here, because when i out on sick leave I hate it when i got called in for carpet dance. Why do he care if i call in sick 8 times this year. I have weak immune system maybe? I dunno, i'm not doctor pero this crap is gotta stop.
I only call in sick 1 time at the outstation too, because of stomach virus or something i could not fly back to Jackson LaToya Hartsfield International sky port. CP call me in for that and ream me. Give me a break charlie.
I only call in sick 1 time at the outstation too, because of stomach virus or something i could not fly back to Jackson LaToya Hartsfield International sky port. CP call me in for that and ream me. Give me a break charlie.
10-09-2015 | 10:14 AM
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Here is the thing about this "sick leave abuse" boogeyman that the company has created. The company does not need to address this through our CBA. There are labor law cases, as well as disability cases, that show companies firing individuals over abuse. As long as the company presents evidence of abuse there is not an arbitrator or court which will prevent termination of said abuser. Gathering this "evidence" takes man power, which the company is too lazy to provide. So get us to fix it. And they get the bone us of creating a nightmare for all of us and many will simply fly sick. Brilliant!
But that is the catch. The company simply wants us to fix this problem. And they want to do so with onerous plans that affect all of us negatively. So since they have the ability to bring this evidence forward and terminate the abusers, you have to ask why they want to fix this so called abuse.
In my opinion it is not really about the few abusers. The company wants to create more efficiencies in their favor. This is but one more item to give them greater pilot utilization.
And what do our Moakist union boys do? Jump right on it for the company. Sheep.
But that is the catch. The company simply wants us to fix this problem. And they want to do so with onerous plans that affect all of us negatively. So since they have the ability to bring this evidence forward and terminate the abusers, you have to ask why they want to fix this so called abuse.
In my opinion it is not really about the few abusers. The company wants to create more efficiencies in their favor. This is but one more item to give them greater pilot utilization.
And what do our Moakist union boys do? Jump right on it for the company. Sheep.
Now they should have been calling in sick all along but they didn't want the harassment or potential for harassment so they just sucked it up and came to work with a runny nose or cough. Now they actually call in sick. Again this is opinion only.
10-09-2015 | 10:42 AM
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Here is the thing about this "sick leave abuse" boogeyman that the company has created. The company does not need to address this through our CBA. There are labor law cases, as well as disability cases, that show companies firing individuals over abuse. As long as the company presents evidence of abuse there is not an arbitrator or court which will prevent termination of said abuser. Gathering this "evidence" takes man power, which the company is too lazy to provide. So get us to fix it. And they get the bone us of creating a nightmare for all of us and many will simply fly sick. Brilliant!
But that is the catch. The company simply wants us to fix this problem. And they want to do so with onerous plans that affect all of us negatively. So since they have the ability to bring this evidence forward and terminate the abusers, you have to ask why they want to fix this so called abuse.
In my opinion it is not really about the few abusers. The company wants to create more efficiencies in their favor. This is but one more item to give them greater pilot utilization.
And what do our Moakist union boys do? Jump right on it for the company. Sheep.
But that is the catch. The company simply wants us to fix this problem. And they want to do so with onerous plans that affect all of us negatively. So since they have the ability to bring this evidence forward and terminate the abusers, you have to ask why they want to fix this so called abuse.
In my opinion it is not really about the few abusers. The company wants to create more efficiencies in their favor. This is but one more item to give them greater pilot utilization.
And what do our Moakist union boys do? Jump right on it for the company. Sheep.
1. The sick leave in the CBA is what the Co wanted and is not broken.
2. We don't purchase airplanes with our pay.
3. We don't staff the airline.
4. We are done giving up scope.
5. Bankruptcy is over.
10-09-2015 | 10:48 AM
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No one has ever shown me one case of sick leave abuse, the company, ALPA and Joe all claim that there is abuse going on. Since Joe is so great at numbers please break down all the sick leave and give me the exact number of abuse.
My bet it's less than 2% of all sick leave. I certainly do not want a flight attendant style sick leave policy based on that.
My bet it's less than 2% of all sick leave. I certainly do not want a flight attendant style sick leave policy based on that.
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