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Old 12-02-2015 | 07:24 AM
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Nov numbers are out..... improved. Maybe el Nino influenced milder winter in eastern us will boost pension subsidy payment in Feb.

I've got 22.85% in the office pool....

Still doesn't come close to compensating this group for what we sacrificed to save delta.
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Old 12-02-2015 | 08:27 AM
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PRASM is improving. Now near the high end of the September quarterly guidance.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da..._8k-ex9901.htm

http://seekingalpha.com/news/2960216...elta-air-lines

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Old 12-02-2015 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Whereisalpa
It was in October I believe. I did not hear why the company did that. Possibly some tax relief. Our union hailed it as a win.
It was around the time Parker said profit sharing was not the way to pay employees. I guess Anderson was trying to rile up the AA employees.
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Old 12-02-2015 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
It was around the time Parker said profit sharing was not the way to pay employees. I guess Anderson was trying to rile up the AA employees.
I believe Richard or Ed said a month or two ago in Q&A with analysts about early PS advance question. There would not be an early PS payout this year because DAL needed to maintain $$ Billion in liquidity etc... at end of year.
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Old 12-02-2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Raises are effective 12/1 and will show up starting on the 12/11 and 12/15 checks. Some impact but minimal. Last year was 15% until the final accounting made it 16.58%. We should have the final number mid January. I put the over/under at 21.5%.
Come on fellas. Yes the 14.5% raise is effective starting on Dec.1. You all do realize that your December 15 paycheck reflects what you earned in November and that the end of the month paycheck is an advance!?! So a raise in December isn't actually paid until January 15, 2016....

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Old 12-02-2015 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Army80
Denny,

!2/1 was picked so as to not trigger a raise for the pilots. Ray Charles could see that.

The deal that the non contracts got was way mo worser than the the deal we turned down.

The good news is that we are now decoupled from the rest of the employees. I cannot image any deal good enough for us to agree to the new non contract program.
You couldn't figure out I knew that from my post? Sorry, I will be more clear the next time.

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Old 12-03-2015 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Come on fellas. Yes the 14.5% raise is effective starting on Dec.1. You all do realize that your December 15 paycheck reflects what you earned in November and that the end of the month paycheck is an advance!?! So a raise in December isn't actually paid until January 15, 2016....

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are you being serious? so non-pilots get paid like pilots? I thought the pay raises we are talking about here go to non-pilots. A pay raise for non-pilots on 12/1 would go into non-pilots december checks, not January.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
are you being serious? so non-pilots get paid like pilots? I thought the pay raises we are talking about here go to non-pilots. A pay raise for non-pilots on 12/1 would go into non-pilots december checks, not January.
Ok, how are FA's paid? Yes I'm being serious. Are they on an hourly wage (like pilots)? Can they work overtime (like pilots)? Tell me where the difference is. Prove me wrong.

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Edit: "They" being non contract employees to include FA's.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Ok, how are FA's paid? Yes I'm being serious. Are they on an hourly wage (like pilots)? Can they work overtime (like pilots)? Tell me where the difference is. Prove me wrong.

Denny

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y" being non contract employees to include FA's.
Denny,
The company actually put out when the raises would be seen in most of the non contracts paychecks. Some of them do hit on December 15th.
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Old 12-03-2015 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Come on fellas. Yes the 14.5% raise is effective starting on Dec.1. You all do realize that your December 15 paycheck reflects what you earned in November and that the end of the month paycheck is an advance!?! So a raise in December isn't actually paid until January 15, 2016....

Denny
Is that true for all non-cons? Not trying to start an argument over peanuts but I think there will be some increased wage expense some where this year. As I said earlier, minimal. Not worried about it but full disclosure...
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