Latest Negotiator's Notepad
05-26-2016 | 10:25 AM
#212
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Everyone has their own push button issues. Off the top of my head I don't have any that are an automatic unequivocal no without seeing the rest of the package and how it is affected. To come out with blanket statements of "If X happens, I'm voting no" is immature. I am sure I will get tons of flack for that but I am a big boy and I can handle it. My point is that we have a rapidly changing pilot dempgraphic in terms of age. So here is an example for you: If we vote to provide newhires with hotel rooms, I am voting no because it takes money away from my pay increase. I do not GAS about that. See how stupid these things are getting?
05-26-2016 | 10:33 AM
#213
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Interesting argument except that for a certain percentage of the group time is running out. Many members of that same group are also deadzoners that will not be made whole no matter what we get. As each day goes by, they are further and further behind. So the guys newly hired, and those yet to be hired are going to reap the benefits of our steadfastedness while many of us are under the wheels of the bus. Maybe the tradition of captains buying beers needs to change.
Time value of money. (Sorry, I gotta go with Warren Buffet on that one and not some faceless keyboard warrior.) Again, I am not advocating a bad deal nor do I have any agenda. (I am really getting tired of saying that but some don't seem to get that I am just expressing an opinion). The longer we go without a pay increase the further behind we are.
Time value of money. (Sorry, I gotta go with Warren Buffet on that one and not some faceless keyboard warrior.) Again, I am not advocating a bad deal nor do I have any agenda. (I am really getting tired of saying that but some don't seem to get that I am just expressing an opinion). The longer we go without a pay increase the further behind we are.
05-26-2016 | 10:35 AM
#215
Gets Weekends Off
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From: A350 Both
I have a 1991 copy of the ALPA magazine tht has the title "Restoring the Profession" It seems that is all we ever do. I keep it just for the chuckle.
05-26-2016 | 10:45 AM
#216
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Ok, I'll be more specific. Restoring the value of the Delta contract lost during the bankruptcy era. That includes: pay rates, retirement equivalent and quality of life. This is the time to achieve this goal given the economic environment Delta (and its employees) helped to create. Concessions are a non-starter, we can save those "negotiating tools" for a rainy day.
05-26-2016 | 11:09 AM
#218
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Interesting argument except that for a certain percentage of the group time is running out. Many members of that same group are also deadzoners that will not be made whole no matter what we get. As each day goes by, they are further and further behind. So the guys newly hired, and those yet to be hired are going to reap the benefits of our steadfastedness while many of us are under the wheels of the bus. Maybe the tradition of captains buying beers needs to change.
Time value of money. (Sorry, I gotta go with Warren Buffet on that one and not some faceless keyboard warrior.) Again, I am not advocating a bad deal nor do I have any agenda. (I am really getting tired of saying that but some don't seem to get that I am just expressing an opinion). The longer we go without a pay increase the further behind we are.
Time value of money. (Sorry, I gotta go with Warren Buffet on that one and not some faceless keyboard warrior.) Again, I am not advocating a bad deal nor do I have any agenda. (I am really getting tired of saying that but some don't seem to get that I am just expressing an opinion). The longer we go without a pay increase the further behind we are.
05-26-2016 | 11:13 AM
#219
Gets Weekends Off
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From: A350 Both
05-26-2016 | 11:18 AM
#220
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
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