Ta 2017
10-05-2017, 09:00 AM
#203
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
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Most applicants are going to have their sights on the $$$ as they should. Hopefully you guys sign this industry leading TA to set the bar higher for everyone else.
10-05-2017, 09:15 AM
#205
Will FTI for food...
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 388
But keep telling yourself it's more so voting for a new contract does not seem like stealing pay from new guys...
10-05-2017, 09:24 AM
#206
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
18 month lock on essentially the same airplane type? Where do the 700s fit in? Would that not hurt some and when does the lock start for people on property?
Covering JFK AND LGA. Finishing in one place and then having to get to the other not on on Reserve but will lines be built that way? Is transportation covered in this case? You park your car one place but then have to get to the other. NYC is the only base that has this multi airport issues and no extra pay? NYC is expensive. Parking at both now?
No better Delta pass bennies?
No additional uniform coverage?
No flow! Three AA W/Os do so what does will that mean for recruitment/retention?
I am asking as of course I have not seen the TA just curious?
What does this mean for new hires this year going into Jan 2018? Bonuses stop after Dec 31st 2017? So the 10,000 but maybe the 20,000 but not the 23,000?
Thank you.
Covering JFK AND LGA. Finishing in one place and then having to get to the other not on on Reserve but will lines be built that way? Is transportation covered in this case? You park your car one place but then have to get to the other. NYC is the only base that has this multi airport issues and no extra pay? NYC is expensive. Parking at both now?
No better Delta pass bennies?
No additional uniform coverage?
No flow! Three AA W/Os do so what does will that mean for recruitment/retention?
I am asking as of course I have not seen the TA just curious?
What does this mean for new hires this year going into Jan 2018? Bonuses stop after Dec 31st 2017? So the 10,000 but maybe the 20,000 but not the 23,000?
Thank you.
10-05-2017, 09:27 AM
#209
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Who are they going to shift the flying to? Go Jets? Skywest? Republic? We’re flying flights now that they can’t do. I’m not disagreeing with you but with the market the way it is, we have the power now to really get something. I just wish we would stop devaluing what we do for mighty D. We are very valuable to them and have been doing an amazing job for them especially after the BK. Yes the came back with money but we’ve been taking it in the shorts for a long time.
10-05-2017, 09:28 AM
#210
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Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 329
The flow isn’t a top 3 consideration to most applicants to AAs wholly owned regionals. In late 2015/early 2016 AAs WO regionals were lagging way behind in pay (much like they will be if this TA is passed) and the flow wasn’t a big enough carrot so they had a lot of problems recruiting. At one point some of the WOs were sending classes of 2 through training because that’s all they could get.
Most applicants are going to have their sights on the $$$ as they should. Hopefully you guys sign this industry leading TA to set the bar higher for everyone else.
Most applicants are going to have their sights on the $$$ as they should. Hopefully you guys sign this industry leading TA to set the bar higher for everyone else.
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