DownInPetaluma

This is the way of the future, ladies and gentlemen.

Airlines (one in particular) do not desire experience. They've done the math and the answer is for their regional captains -current and future- to train the next round of walking company billboards.

1500 hours is already too much experience for the Future Button Pushers of America. And remember, there is a massive pilot shortage coming! Soon!

Yumyum

We are already short regional captains. Wait til next year when SWA alone hires 900-1000 pilots. Shortage hitting

Mesabah

I agree, look how short we are now, and this big hiring spree is just at the beginning. You have to have some form of sustainable program to get pilots, otherwise our airlines will fall apart from the bottom up.

Yumyum

Yep...most of the top 200 are willing to stay. Maybe a few LCA’s after the TA rates....but most North of 300 are waiting for the call. Next year is going to be a big if our economy continues to grow.

KSCessnaDriver

And the game is now to lock everyone in that’s at a regional now, for the long term. Let them fight for the scraps of the regional flying and the “privilege” of teaching mainline hires who do 1 year and go fly a CS100. They can get people to sign up for long term training contract/indentured servitude jobs, making union representation useless, as the individual pilots are beholden to the company. Multi crew licenses, European style, are soon to follow, to eliminate the 1500 hours of CFI problem

But all I hear from people is roll over and let it happen... and I’m not sure why

Mesabah

We don't have any scope leverage over Delta, we can tell them no, and they will find someone else to say yes. It would be up to mainline pilots to stop this program, not us.

On top of it, we don't know where those pilots are going yet, I assume it's here, but that might not be the case.

TalkTurkey

Agreed and agreed.

Hardcoresurpris

So many haters in this post first off let me say this Im Not at all complaining about my job I love What I do i been working on the ramp in MSP for DL mainline for last 6 years And been flying for a few only now because I Can afford it barely afford it at that working on the ramp in Not by far the easiest thing in the world You guys might only see us loading your 50 bags flight to insert airport name here ___________. But on the other side of the airport we loading 150 to 200 bags 3000lbs fright 1000 lbs going to ATL And don't let it be an ANC flight we always bulk out the bins in 757 going to ANC And loading bags in a MD sucks in those smalls bins definitely when the lavatory guy show up and dump the toilet now the who bin smell like ....becuase were loading right under the bathroom And in summer time some days we go the whole shift without lunch And please don't give me That some times pilots go there whole shift without a lunch to doing physical work without a lunch Is way different then doing a job Where U sit down most of the time without a lunch or when a regional pilot ask you to load 500lb of ballast then ask U to take all off it off then again ask You to load 300lb of ballast all on same flight and don't let the first flight of the day be a SEA flight all of the fright of fish You going to be smelling like bad fish for the rest of the day And it doesn't get better in the winter time Im de ice coordinator So on snow days I'm outside working 8am TIL midnight to only be put in a Nice hotel to come back at 8am again And do it all over then to finally get home to notice my skin is peeling of like a snake for being soak in deiceing fluid for the last two day And btw just about everyone here on the ramp 25 years old And younger either have a degree or is working on one It's only a few that actually want to become a pilot And a lot of guys here on the ramp is on the move crew Where they have to learn how to do cold And dark start up of every Delta And Delta connections aircraft in 3 weeks Not say they go in dept like pilots do But still they can taxi a 777 to the hanger But What I'm trying to say is

you can't tell me I don't deserve I good chance to move up in a company That i ALREADY WORK FOR

JTwift

I just want to say they you really need to work on punctuation and paragraphs. That was impossible to read.

Hardcoresurpris

I wrote That on my phone in like 1min in the bin of this plane Tbh