DGI Rates
02-12-2019, 09:41 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Why would it surprise anyone that the DGI success rate is lower than that for off the street hires? Delta wants what Delta wants. They probably have 5000 applications annually to review from everyone already in the industry and another 1000 retiring or separating military.
Included in these off the street apps are apps FROM the guys and gals at Endeavor and all the other Delta Connection carriers. They undoubtedly believe that they have ALREADY skimmed the cream off the top of their DGI candidates years before they ever get to the point the DGI program COMPELS them to give the remaining folks an interview. Nobody should DEPEND upon DGI.
The DGI program is sort of like an ejection seat. An ejection seat should never be your preferred way of getting to the ground. It’s a backup, a sort of last chance, and sitting there contentedly waiting to use it - and hoping it works when you do - is a high risk strategy. It won’t replace getting the education and experience that Delta wants its candidates to have, or avoiding the training failures and DUIs that will take you out of the running even if they are compelled to interview you.
Realistically, it’s probably unreasonable to expect DGI hiring success rate to ever be as high as that of the other OTS candidates who are getting their interviews through a more rigorous screening process. That’s just common sense. Delta doesn’t even pretend it’s a flow.
Included in these off the street apps are apps FROM the guys and gals at Endeavor and all the other Delta Connection carriers. They undoubtedly believe that they have ALREADY skimmed the cream off the top of their DGI candidates years before they ever get to the point the DGI program COMPELS them to give the remaining folks an interview. Nobody should DEPEND upon DGI.
The DGI program is sort of like an ejection seat. An ejection seat should never be your preferred way of getting to the ground. It’s a backup, a sort of last chance, and sitting there contentedly waiting to use it - and hoping it works when you do - is a high risk strategy. It won’t replace getting the education and experience that Delta wants its candidates to have, or avoiding the training failures and DUIs that will take you out of the running even if they are compelled to interview you.
Realistically, it’s probably unreasonable to expect DGI hiring success rate to ever be as high as that of the other OTS candidates who are getting their interviews through a more rigorous screening process. That’s just common sense. Delta doesn’t even pretend it’s a flow.
It would be funny to see this forum morph from "DGI will have better success than SSP" to "guys, you cant expect anything close to 75%, go to endeavor planning to bail for anything but Delta." In effect, commute to your first regional in hopes your real airline isn't at any Delta base.
This board brings the funny nearly every day. Can't wait to see whats next.
02-12-2019, 09:50 AM
#162
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
Idk, couple people on here believe itll be OTS success rate. The SSP never attained off the street success rate but supposedly the DGI will be better. That's what these guys believe and, to be fair, what the company tells us to believe.
It would be funny to see this forum morph from "DGI will have better success than SSP" to "guys, you cant expect anything close to 75%, go to endeavor planning to bail for anything but Delta." In effect, commute to your first regional in hopes your real airline isn't at any Delta base.
This board brings the funny nearly every day. Can't wait to see whats next.
It would be funny to see this forum morph from "DGI will have better success than SSP" to "guys, you cant expect anything close to 75%, go to endeavor planning to bail for anything but Delta." In effect, commute to your first regional in hopes your real airline isn't at any Delta base.
This board brings the funny nearly every day. Can't wait to see whats next.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
02-12-2019, 10:27 AM
#163
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Originally Posted by Flogger
With all that in mind, DL should seriously consider scrapping the program unless the hire rate can somehow be better than street, which it never will do.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
If the company wants to talk flow, or a surefire handshake (psa to American style) interview, then lets waste negotiating time and capital on it. Meanwhile, lets focus on things that help us today:
-get the shuttle back
-Pay increases while we can still trade for them (since growth isnt coming)
-Get control over the reserve grid, and i know we'll never set levels, but if they're gonna pretend they need 65 resever pilots a day, when there's only 40 pilots planned to be on staff, then there should be 25 p1+p2 reserve slots paying at 150%.
-get the shuttle back (emphasis)
-remove scheduling from the partial add drops too, flica for the pilots, if its contractual then no manual stopages on FLICA.
There's a ton out there to go after, i think the union said on the last conf call theres 25 or 30 strategic objectives. If the NYC pilots are fed up with co domicile and our reserve pilots are gonna be fed to the nyc public transit and the Uber bait and switch, lets disassemble it. We tried it, we don't get enough out of it.
02-12-2019, 10:51 AM
#165
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
My worry is CRM when the Propel pilots start flying with the no-hires. These guys coming in have no experience, and yet will have to fly with the bitter folk.
If i was a propel guy I'd simply report pilots if they harass me. Its work, not a clique. If someones goal is to stick around and make work miserable I'm sure theres ditches that need digging somewhere.
02-12-2019, 11:02 AM
#166
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Originally Posted by Flogger
With all that in mind, DL should seriously consider scrapping the program unless the hire rate can somehow be better than street, which it never will do.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
02-12-2019, 01:56 PM
#169
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Originally Posted by Mustang62
Why are those two mutually exclusive?
02-12-2019, 02:13 PM
#170
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Originally Posted by Flogger
With all that in mind, DL should seriously consider scrapping the program unless the hire rate can somehow be better than street, which it never will do.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
The amount of negative advertising and actual harm which will be done to 9E makes the whole DGI program just a waste of time and money which will actually become a negative recruitment tool.
There is no way they will be able to put a positive spin on the ratio of between 100% interviewed to 50% hire is better than the street ratio. It may be better mathematically, but that is one difficult sales pitch for recruiters.
It’s seems Endeavor has no problems recruiting new pilots with many on hold for class dates. Probably not many asking about the DGI success rate.
It would be nice to see the percentages increase though. Too many good guys getting passed over...
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