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04-29-2019, 04:32 PM

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Boats and Hos

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Read the reg

The question is specific. If while on OE as a Captain. Please go read the reg. It’s pretty clear. This is can you. Should you, for application purposes, can be debated, I guess.

04-29-2019, 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boats and Hos

The question is specific. If while on OE as a Captain. Please go read the reg. It’s pretty clear. This is can you. Should you, for application purposes, can be debated, I guess.

(2) If rated to act as pilot in command of the aircraft, an airline transport pilot may log all flight time while acting as pilot in command of an operation requiring an airline transport pilot certificate.

Who’s acting as PIC on OE? Maybe I’m reading something differently..? Until I’m signed off, how could I possibly claim PIC?

04-29-2019, 04:46 PM

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Mjm8710

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You are not PIC until you pass your line check. OE counts as SIC only.

04-29-2019, 08:26 PM

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Silver02ex

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Originally Posted by Mjm8710

You are not PIC until you pass your line check. OE counts as SIC only.

This is not always the case and depends on the company. I had my line check but waiting on my fed ride. I was sill SIC for my fed ride, even though I already passed my line check.

04-30-2019, 05:07 AM

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You could log it either way depending on which FAR you want to reference, but if you ever want to move on to another airline, it is SIC time in their eyes. The check pilot is PIC. Only time you'd be logging PIC time with a check airman is if you are already a line qualified captain and for some reason you have a check pilot in the right seat. (giving a line check from the right seat which I don't think is done here anymore because of AQP, or for some reason they JM a check pilot to fill in as FO, again I haven't heard of that happening here in many many years.)

04-30-2019, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mjm8710

You are not PIC until you pass your line check. OE counts as SIC only.

In your future airline pilot life, nobody will care about a few hours logged one way or the other. They will however, care about the way you interpret regulations. They will consider your approach as an indication of conservative versus, shall we say, leaning toward more liberal operation of the aircraft. Needless to say, many airlines like to hire PICs that operate conservatively in nearly all aspects, as a general rule...

04-30-2019, 05:58 AM

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If you are PIC on the flight release, log PIC. If you are SIC on the release, log SIC. It's not worth the 25ish hours of PIC time to have to try and explain that way of logging it at an interview