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08-20-2022 | 10:12 AM

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theUpsideDown

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Not so. The DALPA contract determines payscales and seniority of all the non management pilots. Delta can hire whoever they want, but if they are non management pilots the DALPA contract governs it.

Governs their pay, workrules, and protection, not who they can hire.

08-20-2022 | 10:45 AM

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Management needs an LOA with DALPA to seat lock the 9E pilots in the CRJ 900 if there was a staple, otherwise it creates 4000 training events.

08-20-2022 | 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

Management needs an LOA with DALPA to seat lock the 9E pilots in the CRJ 900 if there was a staple, otherwise it creates 4000 training events.

Sure, and they can sign our contract first. We might have a few other demands too.

08-20-2022 | 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Not so. The DALPA contract determines payscales and seniority of all the non management pilots. Delta can hire whoever they want, but if they are non management pilots the DALPA contract governs it.

And those pay scales and seniority are already in place. So….

08-20-2022 | 06:03 PM

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This place (and it’s pilot group) looks more and more like Comair 2.0 everyday…

08-20-2022 | 06:28 PM

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This place (and it’s pilot group) looks more and more like Comair 2.0 everyday…

I would describe Endeavor's issues as the exact polar opposite of Comair.

08-21-2022 | 06:34 AM

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This place (and it’s pilot group) looks more and more like Comair 2.0 everyday…

Only in that Delta would rather shut us down than merge or staple (or give advanced seniority)

08-21-2022 | 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 13pro

Delta could do whatever they want. DALPA has no say in who Delta hires, and seniority/longevity, is essentially them hiring. Delta doesn’t want to because it might “hurt OTS recruiting”.

This is largely false and has been confirmed by Endeavor, 9E ALPA, dalpa, Delta, and all associated lawyers. Delta can HIRE whomever they want but but contract the seniority list belongs to dalpa as it should be. If you need convincing ask your reps.

The only way that deal was going to get done is with dalpa. They've said that from the beginning like 2 years ago and this shouldn't be news