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03-30-2023 | 07:27 PM
#111
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That's actually exactly how it works. Endeavor is a company owned by Delta and run by a Delta employee. The Endeavor corporate ladder does not extend above JG.
Are LATAM pilots Delta employees? How about Virgin Atlantic pilots? Those pilots work for Delta subsidiaries, too.
Under your logic, a Virgin Atlantic pilot would be at least partially a Delta pilot. The whole point of Delta owning part of Virgin Atlantic is that a Virgin Atlantic pilot is 100% not a Delta pilot. That same logic applies to Endeavor and its pilots.
Are LATAM pilots Delta employees? How about Virgin Atlantic pilots? Those pilots work for Delta subsidiaries, too.
Under your logic, a Virgin Atlantic pilot would be at least partially a Delta pilot. The whole point of Delta owning part of Virgin Atlantic is that a Virgin Atlantic pilot is 100% not a Delta pilot. That same logic applies to Endeavor and its pilots.
Once again, who does Jim report to? Himself? No matter how many attempts that are made, at the end of the day Jim reports to Ed, plain and simple. You can continue to believe whatever you wish, but that will not change the facts with this.
03-30-2023 | 09:43 PM
#112
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When I think “Delta pilot” I think “pilot on the delta air lines pilot seniority list.” I believe most people think this way.
Define it differently if you wish but it doesn’t put a 9E pilot on Delta’s seniority list.
Define it differently if you wish but it doesn’t put a 9E pilot on Delta’s seniority list.
03-30-2023 | 10:09 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying that we are on the Delta pilot’s seniority list. Folks is just pointing out that Endeavor pilots and employees , along with all the assets , are owned and controlled by Delta.
03-30-2023 | 10:15 PM
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It’s worth remembering that literally every lifer at EDV has had a shot at a zero-work besides fill the app out flow to Delta within the last two years. Absolutely nobody can claim they got “stuck” at this point. Anybody pre merge could have a thousand or more numbers below them at DL by now. First flow classes that’s probably approaching 4k. I think quite a few are narrowbody capts in DTW and not just on a T-tail. Good for them, I’m sure they are thrilled with the flow. The “we need a staple now!” contingent just seems like guys who couldn’t stomach starting at the bottom and now want their second bite as it worked well for their buddies.
03-31-2023 | 02:54 AM
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I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
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03-31-2023 | 06:01 AM
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and there it is. EDV lifer wants a SLI windfall. Wants to be integrated ahead of the pilots who flowed, while he stayed put. SMH.
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
03-31-2023 | 06:04 AM
#118
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and there it is. EDV lifer wants a SLI windfall. Wants to be integrated ahead of the pilots who flowed, while he stayed put. SMH.
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
03-31-2023 | 06:18 AM
#119
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and there it is. EDV lifer wants a SLI windfall. Wants to be integrated ahead of the pilots who flowed, while he stayed put. SMH.
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
I do know of about 15,500 interested individuals and their alpa reps who would accept nothing other than a staple.
Delta mgmt would not put up with a ****fest SLI. They don’t need or want the drama. They’d shut EDV down and bring some airplanes over before forcing a merger. Did you get some good fragmentation/acquisition language in your contract, or just take the higher rates?
Perhaps you and Borden could get preferential interviews.
Just be sure to tell the interview panel you’re already Delta employees, and demand to use your EDV hire date for non-rev longevity. That will work, right, Lizzy? Because you’re “Delta employees.”
