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Old 05-13-2023, 06:01 AM
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Aero Crew news posted that Delta and Endeavor signed a joint agreement supporting incorporation of Endeavor pilots and aircraft into Delta. Any more details on this? Thatís amazing news
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Aero Crew news posted that Delta and Endeavor signed a joint agreement supporting incorporation of Endeavor pilots and aircraft into Delta. Any more details on this? Thatís amazing news

The union leadership of both airlines got together and said they supported it. Itís the first time Deltas MEC has been so open throated in their support but they have been for a merger of some sort for a while now.

Doesnít mean anything until/if Big Daddy D decides itís worth it.
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Aero Crew news posted that Delta and Endeavor signed a joint agreement supporting incorporation of Endeavor pilots and aircraft into Delta. Any more details on this? Thatís amazing news
They did the same thing last year and daddy D said no.
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Aero Crew news posted that Delta and Endeavor signed a joint agreement supporting incorporation of Endeavor pilots and aircraft into Delta. Any more details on this? Thatís amazing news
Won't happen.
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Aero Crew news posted that Delta and Endeavor signed a joint agreement supporting incorporation of Endeavor pilots and aircraft into Delta. Any more details on this? Thatís amazing news
Important distinctionÖthe unions agreedÖnot Mgmt.
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Considering they won’t even do some form of early seniority for flows, I don’t see this amounting to much. Also worth noting the agreement expressly indicated a staple, not a “merge”.
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I'd think both MEC's coming to some agreement is pretty meaningless really. In the end, how would this benefit Delta in a business sense, save them money, etc? Delta sure wouldn't move forward with this just because it makes people feel good.
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I'd think both MEC's coming to some agreement is pretty meaningless really. In the end, how would this benefit Delta in a business sense, save them money, etc? Delta sure wouldn't move forward with this just because it makes people feel good.
Union cooperation isnít nearly sufficient but itís certainly necessary for a simple, quick integration if delta mgmt ever does want it
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Considering they wonít even do some form of early seniority for flows, I donít see this amounting to much. Also worth noting the agreement expressly indicated a staple, not a ďmergeĒ.
So, what's the difference between a staple and a merge? I'm not familiar.

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So, what's the difference between a staple and a merge? I'm not familiar.

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In a staple, one group is stapled below the other group when combining the lists. The most senior pilot on one list will be junior to the most junior pilot on the other list. In a merge, the lists are intertwined.
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