9E (Endeavor) or BK
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All the contract improvements we can think up won't mean squat unless there is visible movement in the senority list. They can extend the SSP to new hires all they want, but as long as the hiring is to stop the bleeding from the bottom it will never matter and I think the new hires will be smart enough to ask questions before they accept a position. Once they learn they have to be a CA for a year and that there are little to no upgrades then common sense will tell them that the SSP is worthless. I think we will have to show movement before anyone decides to come here or the firm announcement of keeping air frames needs to be made. I'm surprised the status-quo here has attracted anyone at all. Knowing what I know now, the only thing that would get me to come here (with the present status of our airline) over Compass would be a Delta senority number, which we all know won't happen. How they expect to hire with the most relevant public announcement being an 81 plane fleet is beyond me. The fact that they want to hire 400 tells me they have other plans in the works, but aren't going to make them public.
It doesn't matter how many people accept the job offer if they don't show up to class.
It doesn't matter how many people accept the job offer if they don't show up to class.
Dangling carrots will mean squat if those new hires find themselves on the street after all the 200s are gone. I doubt new hires will be that short sighted, since fleet reduction plan is public and official.
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We were just told in Ground school today that it is official we are keeping at least 73 200's. But I do not see a memo or anything posted anywhere. So if anyone sees anything official to confirm this please post a link. He was talking about how they just had a lunch with some higher ups so he might be just stating what he heard at the lunch which could just be a rumor.
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We were just told in Ground school today that it is official we are keeping at least 73 200's. But I do not see a memo or anything posted anywhere. So if anyone sees anything official to confirm this please post a link. He was talking about how they just had a lunch with some higher ups so he might be just stating what he heard at the lunch which could just be a rumor.
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I don't think there are any regional pilots, especially FO's that would disagree. I try to look at the brighter side of things, make as much as I can at the regional level, and then move on. If you have some great idea to raise wages then I'm all ears but so far I've only heard b****ing and moaning and no solutions. I was sickened at ALPA during our last "lunch" where all they talked about was some Dubai customs BS and other things that have no effect on us. I'd say the first step is to set a floor level of pay in this race to the bottom. If ALPA isn't on board then maybe it's time to form a union that solely represents regional pilots. As far as your economics class comment goes, lighten up!! Remember that Delta has CRJ-900 rates in their contract. Mind you that every pilot at 9E would be making over 6 figures at that rate. So the economics are simple. If there are people willing to work for dirt wages then pay them dirt. And if their union won't put a stop to it then better yet.
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We were just told in Ground school today that it is official we are keeping at least 73 200's. But I do not see a memo or anything posted anywhere. So if anyone sees anything official to confirm this please post a link. He was talking about how they just had a lunch with some higher ups so he might be just stating what he heard at the lunch which could just be a rumor.
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