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Old 01-21-2017, 02:51 PM
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Do FOs build any PIC time? (Are they fully type rated?)
How quick to 1,000 hours? 13 months?
I meet most captain mins except 1,000 hours 121.
If I get 1,000 hours in less than 18 months, can I upgrade to captain in less than 18 months? I mean I know it's seniority based, just asking.
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Old 01-21-2017, 03:01 PM
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Do FOs build any PIC time? (Are they fully type rated?)
How quick to 1,000 hours? 13 months?
I meet most captain mins except 1,000 hours 121.
If I get 1,000 hours in less than 18 months, can I upgrade to captain in less than 18 months? I mean I know it's seniority based, just asking.
While you can log some part 61 time acting as sole manipulator for whenever you go back to 135 or part 91 it isn't anything the airlines care about. They go to great length to ensure you are PIC only if youre signing the book.
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Old 01-21-2017, 03:38 PM
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While you can log some part 61 time acting as sole manipulator for whenever you go back to 135 or part 91 it isn't anything the airlines care about. They go to great length to ensure you are PIC only if youre signing the book.

So do most FOs log all time as SIC for that reason? If so, do they separate PM / PF in their logbook in anyway?
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Old 01-21-2017, 04:23 PM
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So do most FOs log all time as SIC for that reason? If so, do they separate PM / PF in their logbook in anyway?
I log total time, night, sic, turbine, multi and actual as a fo. I don't specify pm/pf it doesn't make a difference im still sic. Log the landing obvious only if you flew it.
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Old 01-21-2017, 04:24 PM
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So do most FOs log all time as SIC for that reason? If so, do they separate PM / PF in their logbook in anyway?
All FOs at 121 operators log SIC. Only the captain can log PIC. That is determined by whose name is listed as PIC on the flight release. PF vs. PM and "sole manipulator of flight controls" does not matter. FOs are fully type rated though.
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:14 PM
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The other questions were answered above. But as to 1,000 121 time, that is up to you to fly as much or as little as possible. 18 months at EDV is very doable. 12 may be, if you try hard enough. Get 1,000, and you will upgrade. Many already have 1,000 and haven't upgraded, so you will beat them to CA if you upgrade right at 1,000.

Originally Posted by APU1 View Post
Do FOs build any PIC time? (Are they fully type rated?)
How quick to 1,000 hours? 13 months?
I meet most captain mins except 1,000 hours 121.
If I get 1,000 hours in less than 18 months, can I upgrade to captain in less than 18 months? I mean I know it's seniority based, just asking.
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX2MSP View Post
All FOs at 121 operators log SIC. Only the captain can log PIC. That is determined by whose name is listed as PIC on the flight release. PF vs. PM and "sole manipulator of flight controls" does not matter. FOs are fully type rated though.
Legally speaking, you can put whatever you want in your logbook. All that matters is what the place you are applying to counts toward their minimums.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:25 AM
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Anybody see anything about the big announcement we tweeted we'd say today at the gay pilot association winter warm up today? So far nothing on my end.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:45 AM
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Anybody see anything about the big announcement we tweeted we'd say today at the gay pilot association winter warm up today? So far nothing on my end.
Ya Idk, should have been yesterday. Haven't heard anything either.
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:40 AM
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Ya Idk, should have been yesterday. Haven't heard anything either.
My contact on our recruitment team says it's an exclusive partnership with NGPA to support outreach at university and flight schools across the country. Definitely not "big" news, but a great way to support a diverse workforce.

For what it's worth, I doubt our team would make any sort of game changing announcement at an event like that.
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