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Old 02-24-2017, 12:33 PM
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95% is a big number. Have you fact checked your 95%? Anything can change when the company says things as Delta is the one making those decisions. I'm sure they don't tell us all they know but Mr. Elander is perty straight forward with his info. He said the plan is 18 but 14 confirmed 200 in new base. I asked how many airframes to expect in the future, he said 175-200 and that doesn't include the 200s. Also said 200s are here 3-5 more years before gone. He didn't say what base!!

Green route you can give him a call to fact check if you want.
I don't think he's saying russ didnt say it, he's saying Russ can't say the future because Edv doesnt control its destiny. If Skywest decides they want xjt around for another couple years Delta would drop everything tomorrow to make it happen.

95% of what RE says is well meaning, thats a fact. The 200s didnt leave, the 175s and 700s didn't come, the EtD wasn't a great success, pilots didn't stop leaving for PSA once Guum explains how good we had it, money WAS what pilots needed to come chance employment with EDV.

Some of that stuff RE meant, some he was told to say. The 200s will be here if oil stays down, when it goes up the 200s will evaporate.
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
I don't think he's saying russ didnt say it, he's saying Russ can't say the future because Edv doesnt control its destiny. If Skywest decides they want xjt around for another couple years Delta would drop everything tomorrow to make it happen.

95% of what RE says is well meaning, thats a fact. The 200s didnt leave, the 175s and 700s didn't come, the EtD wasn't a great success, pilots didn't stop leaving for PSA once Guum explains how good we had it, money WAS what pilots needed to come chance employment with EDV.

Some of that stuff RE meant, some he was told to say. The 200s will be here if oil stays down, when it goes up the 200s will evaporate.
Your Mesaba simple-mindedness is not so revealing afterall. You are a well-studied realist. Don't take any of that as an insult. It's actually an unsolicited compliment.

EDV is poised for the long-haul. we aren't going anywhere as long as our OPR and Koolaid drinking remains at levels that SECRETLY pay our DIRECTORS mad BONUSES. Believe you me that that is the hype Russ preaches about. If it weren't for the Directors' bottom line bonuses, OPR and us turning pu55ified for customer service, no one would care. They get paid handsomely for our good deeds. That you can take to the bank... sort of.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:16 PM
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Your Mesaba simple-mindedness is not so revealing afterall. You are a well-studied realist. Don't take any of that as an insult. It's actually an unsolicited compliment.

EDV is poised for the long-haul. we aren't going anywhere as long as our OPR and Koolaid drinking remains at levels that SECRETLY pay our DIRECTORS mad BONUSES. Believe you me that that is the hype Russ preaches about. If it weren't for the Directors' bottom line bonuses, OPR and us turning pu55ified for customer service, no one would care. They get paid handsomely for our good deeds. That you can take to the bank... sort of.
I'd never take the accusation that I'm simple minded as an insult. You should see my reading list, mostly Dr. Sues and whoever wrote goodnight moon.
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
I don't think he's saying russ didnt say it, he's saying Russ can't say the future because Edv doesnt control its destiny. If Skywest decides they want xjt around for another couple years Delta would drop everything tomorrow to make it happen.

95% of what RE says is well meaning, thats a fact. The 200s didnt leave, the 175s and 700s didn't come, the EtD wasn't a great success, pilots didn't stop leaving for PSA once Guum explains how good we had it, money WAS what pilots needed to come chance employment with EDV.

Some of that stuff RE meant, some he was told to say. The 200s will be here if oil stays down, when it goes up the 200s will evaporate.
The 200s almost did! I think they got down to 16 out of 141. I was just passing on what was said. That's atleast better than rumor.
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:37 PM
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The 200s almost did! I think they got down to 16 out of 141. I was just passing on what was said. That's atleast better than rumor.
Yup on the 200s, yet again it was outside EDV control. Wisconsin loses it on Delta and tells them to FOAD and there's no one left to fly the stupid things, except the company you own that can't staff for them.

He's doing a great job, he's loveable, he is simply not an authority. I agree it's better than rumors, like the SNA thing. SNA was right out of RE mouth, west coast base coming soon. Compass 175s and free beer in crew room.
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Old 02-24-2017, 04:34 PM
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Who do we contact about the awful phx hotels?
What's wrong with the new one? Or you still at Comfort Suites?
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Old 02-24-2017, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
Yup on the 200s, yet again it was outside EDV control. Wisconsin loses it on Delta and tells them to FOAD and there's no one left to fly the stupid things, except the company you own that can't staff for them.

He's doing a great job, he's loveable, he is simply not an authority. I agree it's better than rumors, like the SNA thing. SNA was right out of RE mouth, west coast base coming soon. Compass 175s and free beer in crew room.
Very true. Only Delta has the say.
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Old 02-24-2017, 05:04 PM
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For those not aware half the bags in the bag room in lga are tagged to be removed and destroyed by the end of march. Says they were all tagged today.
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Old 02-24-2017, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey View Post
Your Mesaba simple-mindedness is not so revealing afterall. You are a well-studied realist. Don't take any of that as an insult. It's actually an unsolicited compliment.

EDV is poised for the long-haul. we aren't going anywhere as long as our OPR and Koolaid drinking remains at levels that SECRETLY pay our DIRECTORS mad BONUSES. Believe you me that that is the hype Russ preaches about. If it weren't for the Directors' bottom line bonuses, OPR and us turning pu55ified for customer service, no one would care. They get paid handsomely for our good deeds. That you can take to the bank... sort of.
I have no problem with executives and directors earning bonuses. This is a business, and this is America. I highly doubt it's as handsome as you imply, but whatever it is, good on them. They've made this the place to be. If anyone deserves more, I'd say our MX folks should be first in line for that for giving us equipment that works.
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Old 02-24-2017, 05:06 PM
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For those not aware half the bags in the bag room in lga are tagged to be removed and destroyed by the end of march. Says they were all tagged today.
Good! Hope that they do the same in jfk.
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