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Old 07-27-2017 | 02:26 PM
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Money's been outmatched by some. If negotiations go the way it seems, those who credit less than 85 hrs per month will have their pay cut. All we can do is wait and see.
I agree. The entire regional model is outdated and done. It's finally a pilots market and ALPA is choking. Pilot shortage nope! Money shortage yep.
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Old 07-27-2017 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Money's been outmatched by some. If negotiations go the way it seems, those who credit less than 85 hrs per month will have their pay cut. All we can do is wait and see.



Kind of a joke that the people complaining about flow are the same people whining about taking a pay cut if they credit less than 75hrs. Work the least amount possible and expect a job at a major to be handed to you. Real go getter attitudes, fellas.
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Old 07-27-2017 | 02:48 PM
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Kind of a joke that the people complaining about flow are the same people whining about taking a pay cut if they credit less than 75hrs. Work the least amount possible and expect a job at a major to be handed to you. Real go getter attitudes, fellas.
Shut up buzz, woody never liked you.
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Old 07-27-2017 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Kind of a joke that the people complaining about flow are the same people whining about taking a pay cut if they credit less than 75hrs. Work the least amount possible and expect a job at a major to be handed to you. Real go getter attitudes, fellas.
Some people actually have a life and family outside of work. If trips were more efficient, we could strike a better balance. Nobody should have to be away from home more than half the month.

It's company shills like you that make it hard with your **** poor attitude of work, work, work. Get outside, get a significant other, get a hobby. Who knows, you might actually like it.
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Old 07-27-2017 | 03:24 PM
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Kind of a joke that the people complaining about flow are the same people whining about taking a pay cut if they credit less than 75hrs. Work the least amount possible and expect a job at a major to be handed to you. Real go getter attitudes, fellas.
Another point: what kind of idiot do you have to be to think ANY pilot should be getting their pay cut in this job market?
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Old 07-27-2017 | 03:49 PM
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[QUOTE=Green Needles;2400445]Another point: what kind of idiot do you have to be to think ANY pilot should be getting their pay cut in this job market?[/QUOTE

👏🏻 Exactly! It's like this BS about about XJT....Those pilots have families.....our growth shouldn't come from another's downsizing. UNION we are not!
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Old 07-27-2017 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Another point: what kind of idiot do you have to be to think ANY pilot should be getting their pay cut in this job market?[/QUOTE

👏🏻 Exactly! It's like this BS about about XJT....Those pilots have families.....our growth shouldn't come from another's downsizing. UNION we are not!
Absolutely!
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Old 07-27-2017 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Kind of a joke that the people complaining about flow are the same people whining about taking a pay cut if they credit less than 75hrs. Work the least amount possible and expect a job at a major to be handed to you. Real go getter attitudes, fellas.
Guarantee means just that. They will pay us that much. If I fly high speeds, I will get that much. If I go unused on reserve, I will be paid that much. If I fly my line as awarded with out over blocking anything, that's my pay. Until now. If these negotiations go the way they seem to be going, I won't.

I'm not dodging work. I work everyday I'm scheduled to, and yet here I am facing a pay cut. You want to be a "go-getter" fine, but don't lobby for us so-called "slackers" to lose pay. That's misplaced ignorance and selfishness. Majors want well rounded individuals, hence the volunteerism and outside activities that make a difference in getting an interview. Must be how so many "lazy" 75 hour pilots got CJOs.
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Old 07-27-2017 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightWasScary
Shut up buzz, woody never liked you.
Well played!
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Old 07-27-2017 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Some people actually have a life and family outside of work. If trips were more efficient, we could strike a better balance. Nobody should have to be away from home more than half the month.

It's company shills like you that make it hard with your **** poor attitude of work, work, work. Get outside, get a significant other, get a hobby. Who knows, you might actually like it.
And you probably think I wear the hat too. I'm not telling you or anyone how to live their life. Company man I am not, and am certainly not of the opinion anyone should take a paycut. But lets not act like reserve time around here is 10-15 years like XJT. If you want to get off reserve and work more, you can...Get a hobby? Have several. Get a significant other? I'm engaged, thank you. I've also got a plan. And it doesn't involve waiting around for a "flow" as my golden ticket.
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