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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:11 PM
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Somebody actually cited the PA thing as a safety issue? Lmao. I dare not search for it.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
FFS, all things being pretty equal between Delta, American, and United what's left? Customer service. Can you really blame them for wanting to excel in this area? What would you do if it was your business?
If it was my business, I would have a red coat at almost every gate; Someone who is actually empowered to help passengers.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
If it was my business, I would have a red coat at almost every gate; Someone who is actually empowered to help passengers.
Are we talking ticket agent, um nope. How about gate agents, nope again. I think they do a pretty good job with their limited knowledge. Once boarded what would you have the gate agents do? And do you really think that's fair?
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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Are we talking ticket agent, um nope. How about gate agents, nope again. I think they do a pretty good job with their limited knowledge. Once boarded what would you have the gate agents do? And do you really think that's fair?
Oh and I suppose none of that is encompassed with, what did you say, customer service. Contrary to what you're blathering about, or rather blithering, customer service changes as you indicate all other things being equal, should most definitely begin with agents and persons dealing directly with passengers. I'm sure every passenger loves arriving to the gate looking for a seat assignment only to get told to kick rocks until zone two is boarding. Way to go agents. New York and Atlanta are the meanest I've seen. Then Detroit. So if you're so concerned with customer service, then yes, ticket and gate agents all the way. Pilots are the effing last place to focus on customer experience. FFS man. Whoever is in charge of customer experience should be fired.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:43 PM
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I'll keep going. Once onboard, it's the FAs whom deal directly with them, right? Duhhh. Ok. Pay them more so they are motivated to be kind and contribute to the customer experience. That's how you improve "customer service." And by the way, our FAs are told to read their announcements out of a book. That's real customer servicy. Perhaps they should give us a script to stand there and read as well. Like mad libs or something.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 04:04 PM
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I'll keep going. Once onboard, it's the FAs whom deal directly with them, right? Duhhh. Ok. Pay them more so they are motivated to be kind and contribute to the customer experience. That's how you improve "customer service." And by the way, our FAs are told to read their announcements out of a book. That's real customer servicy. Perhaps they should give us a script to stand there and read as well. Like mad libs or something.
It's like arguing with children. I'm only advocating for better customer service verses our competitors. What bothers me arsvthe ones who don't think that applies to them. I'll ask again, what would you want if this was your airline. And how would you deal with some of the attitudes against trying to make your airline better?
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Old 08-27-2017 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Oh and I suppose none of that is encompassed with, what did you say, customer service. Contrary to what you're blathering about, or rather blithering, customer service changes as you indicate all other things being equal, should most definitely begin with agents and persons dealing directly with passengers. I'm sure every passenger loves arriving to the gate looking for a seat assignment only to get told to kick rocks until zone two is boarding. Way to go agents. New York and Atlanta are the meanest I've seen. Then Detroit. So if you're so concerned with customer service, then yes, ticket and gate agents all the way. Pilots are the effing last place to focus on customer experience. FFS man. Whoever is in charge of customer experience should be fired.
Whether blithering or blathering, of which I am neither. Realize everyone has a part in the customer experience. And to point fingers at others for their lack of customer service as to a reason why I'm not going to try and provide a better experience from the flight deck is ridiculous. Well he or she did it first. Ffs, that's the crap I heard in kindergarten
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Old 08-27-2017 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotlop
The safety arguement aside, this new policy is more of a time management issue. To make this work, the welcome announcement would have to take place post pax boarding, post agent final count send off (so as to not clothesline him/her with the chord), while FA/FAs are securing the cabin and prior to door close to be able to capture that D0. More often times than not, this won't be possible without disrupting other pertinent tasks. I have yet to see Delta Pilots give a cabin welcome announcement and regret to say I only hear delta pilots give a cockpit welcome announcement about 40% of the time. Goes to prove yet again that we are held to a higher standard than mainline. About that 75 hour retention divisor.....
I give a stand up announcement about 3 out of 4 flights and push at D0, even with 25 minuet turns. This is not a big deal or a problem, not sure why you want to make it one.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I give a stand up announcement about 3 out of 4 flights and push at D0, even with 25 minuet turns. This is not a big deal or a problem, not sure why you want to make it one.
Exactly, it's arguments like that that gives Delta even more ammunition against a flow.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
It's like arguing with children. I'm only advocating for better customer service verses our competitors. What bothers me arsvthe ones who don't think that applies to them. I'll ask again, what would you want if this was your airline. And how would you deal with some of the attitudes against trying to make your airline better?
I don't think there will be too much of that sentiment amongst the cadre of experienced pilots here. Maybe the new generation. Who's to say.
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