Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
08-29-2017, 09:36 AM
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How easy to work with is training scheduling for CA upgrade training? I have a wedding that I'm a part of (immediate family) and those are the only 3 days I need off that month (Fri-Sun). Will they work with me?
08-29-2017, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco
How easy to work with is training scheduling for CA upgrade training? I have a wedding that I'm a part of (immediate family) and those are the only 3 days I need off that month (Fri-Sun). Will they work with me?
08-29-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Not sure that I'm 'doing an awesome job for Delta' as much as I am 'doing an awesome job' because I still take pride in what I do. People coming into and out of NY(specifically LGA) have enough BS they have to deal with getting to/from the aircraft. Least I can do is try to make it suck less for them. Delta is just the beneficiary of my work ethic. Not doing anything 'for Delta', but I digress.
Agreed, the generalization about all senior captains being disgruntled is incorrect. Most of the senior guys I fly with I've learned a great deal from and respect. I was referring to the vocal minority on this forum, didn't mean to make a generalization.
Agreed, the generalization about all senior captains being disgruntled is incorrect. Most of the senior guys I fly with I've learned a great deal from and respect. I was referring to the vocal minority on this forum, didn't mean to make a generalization.
Not sure what you'll think after 15 years when you're still doing an awesome job like most of the pilots I know, and you're still here.
Most of us do and have been going above and beyond and will continue to do so.
Doesn't mean you'll ever get to Delta.
08-29-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Glad you got it all figured out.
Not sure what you'll think after 15 years when you're still doing an awesome job like most of the pilots I know, and you're still here.
Most of us do and have been going above and beyond and will continue to do so.
Doesn't mean you'll ever get to Delta.
Not sure what you'll think after 15 years when you're still doing an awesome job like most of the pilots I know, and you're still here.
Most of us do and have been going above and beyond and will continue to do so.
Doesn't mean you'll ever get to Delta.
08-29-2017, 11:58 AM
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A certain amount of bitterness can be expected from being told NO by Delta. Actually, I think dejection is more the norm. Again, totally understandable. That being said, none of the CAs I have flown with who are in that boat are overly negative. Most are fun to fly with, and good mentors overall. No complaints from me.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
08-29-2017, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
A certain amount of bitterness can be expected from being told NO by Delta. Actually, I think dejection is more the norm. Again, totally understandable. That being said, none of the CAs I have flown with who are in that boat are overly negative. Most are fun to fly with, and good mentors overall. No complaints from me.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
08-29-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
A certain amount of bitterness can be expected from being told NO by Delta. Actually, I think dejection is more the norm. Again, totally understandable. That being said, none of the CAs I have flown with who are in that boat are overly negative. Most are fun to fly with, and good mentors overall. No complaints from me.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
For those of you who are newer to the industry, and "have it all figured out"... bear in mind that all of the older folks at EDV came here with the same enthusiasm as you have now. Get in, do your time, move up. That was the plan. Look what life did to their plans. Doesn't make them poor pilots because they didn't move up. Nor bad people, nor lazy. They did back then what we are all doing now, but for less than half the money. They scraped, scrimped, and tried to support their families with what little they made. They lost their jobs, got downgraded, some multiple times, changed jobs, etc.
So keep all of that in mind when you are judging the fine folks who are stuck here with no hope of moving on to Delta. They did their best in a world where upward mobility was nil at best. Those of us who are newer to the industry are very lucky to be where we are today. Making much better money than ever, with a bettter chance of moving up than the "old timers" ever had due to the stagnation they had to live thru.
So don't gloat, and for sure, do not think that you are better than they are just because you lucked into your current job at a time that is based on when your parents fell in love. It really has nothing to do with your skills nor who you think you are. It's all about timing.
Keep up the good work, everyone. And to those who came before, and paved the way for us to have it as good as it is today, thank you.
My only beef with the company is pay. It's time for a post bankruptcy contract. This pilot group has been pretty damn solid....let's get this done ALPA. We have some super senior ALPA pilots that are waiting for their hourly pay correction.
08-29-2017, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SGRogue
Wonder how this will affect future Ops. Never mind, fake news!
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