Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
07-01-2016 | 06:41 PM
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The 60 per month was a goal, but I don't think it has been met more than once or twice. And it doesn't account for training losses each month, of which there seem to be about 30% on average.
Looking at the Jan ISL and the Jul ISL, there is total growth of only 80 people, 1560 to 1640.
Looking at the Jan ISL and the Jul ISL, there is total growth of only 80 people, 1560 to 1640.
07-01-2016 | 06:47 PM
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The 60 per month was a goal, but I don't think it has been met more than once or twice. And it doesn't account for training losses each month, of which there seem to be about 30% on average.
Looking at the Jan ISL and the Jul ISL, there is total growth of only 80 people, 1560 to 1640.
Looking at the Jan ISL and the Jul ISL, there is total growth of only 80 people, 1560 to 1640.
07-01-2016 | 06:56 PM
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Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
I would say 18%might be a little more accurate. I've known at least one person from 4 classes this year and it doesn't seem like any one is losing more than a couple. I honestly think that's high. I had a few guys in my class that hadn't touched a plane in 3 years aside from an IPC. There was a guy this year that was given 8 extra sim sessions before they let him go. It seems like it would be pretty hard to flunk out of AQP.
07-01-2016 | 07:01 PM
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Well, it happens, even if we don't like it. I heard there was a class in February that lost 5 people out of like 18. Another class lost 3 or 4, but I think they were 23-25 in size. Just recently, an FO quit OE to go elsewhere. So it's not always a training failure that makes the numbers fall.
Those may be above the mean, but those are numbers I was told by someone who was there.
Also, it's not just AQP. Fail two written exams, or one written and a FTD PV, and you are gone, before you ever get to the AQP portion.
Those may be above the mean, but those are numbers I was told by someone who was there.
Also, it's not just AQP. Fail two written exams, or one written and a FTD PV, and you are gone, before you ever get to the AQP portion.
I would say 18%might be a little more accurate. I've known at least one person from 4 classes this year and it doesn't seem like any one is losing more than a couple. I honestly think that's high. I had a few guys in my class that hadn't touched a plane in 3 years aside from an IPC. There was a guy this year that was given 8 extra sim sessions before they let him go. It seems like it would be pretty hard to flunk out of AQP.
07-01-2016 | 07:17 PM
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Hi all - looking for some advice from you experts. I'm a MIL aviator that retired this month, but unfortunately I've been flying a desk for the past 7 years (War College, Joint Command, shore command) and haven't touched the controls during this time. Also, my flight time is not at the same level as my fellow retired aviators since I started out in the back seat. I'm currently at ~1700TT/820TPIC (with no MIL conversion) and was an IP and NATOPS Instructor with about 175 carrier arrested landings.
I live in Greenville, SC and don't want to relocate since I finally get to live near my young son since his mother moved here years ago. By location, PSA seems to be the best fit, but I just finished reading the "PSA Info" thread (all 340 pages...whew!) and in general, they are not a happy bunch. The difference in the tone of this Endeavor thread is stark, but getting hired at Endeavor would involve commuting for me.
Another factor that is part of my decision-making:
- Between my pension and my wife's employment, my priority is QOL over salary, but I do want to get to the majors some day to set us up for a comfortable retirement.
The way I see it, I've got 3 primary choices if I want to fly:
1) PSA (low salary/poor management/decent QOL if I get CLT unless I'm on reserve for a long time)
2) Another regional without a horrendous commute (are there any for me?)
3) Instructing (no benefits/low salary)
What would you recommend? Is it better to have a commute to a known schedule or drive 1.5 hours to CLT to sit reserve for a long time? Appreciate the guidance!
I live in Greenville, SC and don't want to relocate since I finally get to live near my young son since his mother moved here years ago. By location, PSA seems to be the best fit, but I just finished reading the "PSA Info" thread (all 340 pages...whew!) and in general, they are not a happy bunch. The difference in the tone of this Endeavor thread is stark, but getting hired at Endeavor would involve commuting for me.
Another factor that is part of my decision-making:
- Between my pension and my wife's employment, my priority is QOL over salary, but I do want to get to the majors some day to set us up for a comfortable retirement.
The way I see it, I've got 3 primary choices if I want to fly:
1) PSA (low salary/poor management/decent QOL if I get CLT unless I'm on reserve for a long time)
2) Another regional without a horrendous commute (are there any for me?)
3) Instructing (no benefits/low salary)
What would you recommend? Is it better to have a commute to a known schedule or drive 1.5 hours to CLT to sit reserve for a long time? Appreciate the guidance!
07-01-2016 | 07:20 PM
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Well, it happens, even if we don't like it. I heard there was a class in February that lost 5 people out of like 18. Another class lost 3 or 4, but I think they were 23-25 in size. Just recently, an FO quit OE to go elsewhere. So it's not always a training failure that makes the numbers fall.
Those may be above the mean, but those are numbers I was told by someone who was there.
Also, it's not just AQP. Fail two written exams, or one written and a FTD PV, and you are gone, before you ever get to the AQP portion.
Those may be above the mean, but those are numbers I was told by someone who was there.
Also, it's not just AQP. Fail two written exams, or one written and a FTD PV, and you are gone, before you ever get to the AQP portion.
07-01-2016 | 08:49 PM
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I think it's more so trying to keep the performance numbers up out in NYC but I'm curious to see how they do in DTW. They're basically doing a lot of the flying we we're doing out of DTW like the Toronto RON flight and a couple of more routes. It does sucks that we're getting punished in a sense and being sent out to NYC to do the flying that they couldn't handle while they get to come out to DTW and not deal with the 25+ line for take off or constant EDCT times in NYC.
07-01-2016 | 09:15 PM
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Is Endeavor's training program hard, compared to other regional airlines? What portion of training is really tripping people up? What're the major things that you should be focused on while in training, and maybe studying harder than others to pass?
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