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Old 09-29-2017, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
Then our MEC did not listen to us and allowed this to move forward. I hope you are wrong. They know better than that...solid progression to DAL was a must.
I agree with you 100%. But unfortunately I'm not wrong.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
Ok...they shoot themselves in the foot then. No pilots in 18 months to staff their growth. Newbies go to AA feeder where they have a better shot at a DAL interview anyway, and if that doesn't work out, the default is a wide body CA at AA making $500 k. Come on...really
Delta wanted this TA done asap because the writing is on the wall. The ball is not in their court...it's in ours. The DGI is just another guise at this point...it's time for them to make amends and admit they took advantage of us. Give us respectable career progression. Anything less is another slap in the face - especially when this is the norm at other carriers.
If that's the case, they will explore other options, a flow is never coming.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
I agree with you 100%. But unfortunately I'm not wrong.
What are the payrates
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
lol...if you think this would pass with 87% you forgot about seniority numbers 1300 and below. Not likely...
I’m just guessing that history will repeat itself. Most of the bottom 400 know to be yes men if they want big D.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
If that's the case, they will explore other options, a flow is never coming.
My fear is Delta would just as easily turn to Skywest if we try to strongarm them into giving us a flow.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SirLurksalot View Post
What are the payrates
I don't know the details. Just have to wait till Wednesday.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
I don't know the details. Just have to wait till Wednesday.
You speak like you know the details
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:59 AM
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My fear is Delta would just as easily turn to Skywest if we try to strongarm them into giving us a flow.
Strongarm Delta!!!!

Thats funny!


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Old 09-29-2017, 12:02 PM
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Strongarm Delta!!!!

Thats funny!


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My point exactly..

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Old 09-29-2017, 12:04 PM
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My fear is Delta would just as easily turn to Skywest if we try to strongarm them into giving us a flow.
A flow is something that must be gifted by the mainline pilots of Delta to us. There is no way to strong arm them into it. The AA flow is a mainline contractual agreement with APA, dating back to the early 90's. The Mesaba flow was something the NWA mainline pilots extended to us, as a provision of operating 76 seat jets. Do you think Delta pilots are going to spend negotiating capital on us getting a flow?
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