amcnd

Ok. I won’t bring it up again, tell it happens to point out its a threat....That was overlooked... Wasn’t that long ago Compass had one with DL...

crjscum

Don't you have a TA to go pass?

Avroman

If you are referring to a Compass flow, it was a grandfathered carryover from Northwest that Delta did indeed cut off as soon as they could. The Compass flow was contractual with NWA and tied to the amount of seats in their airplanes, a way to have more 76 seat planes outsourced from NWA. The Mesaba planes had already been exempted from the days of the Avros. and thus the Mesaba flow had no contractual protections, which is why most of us got the unlubed shaft on that one.

HarlsBarkley

Can we please start picking up the flight decks during plane swaps/overnights? Window shades up, gaspers open if the APU is running, swap out the trash bag if it's full/gross/smelly, dim the screens if it's hot. Take your crumbs and trash as well.

I feel that this is the least you could do for your fellow brothers/sisters. Some of the flight decks these days are atrocious.

vessbot

My mom worked hard to instill the "leave it worse than you found it" maxim in me.

TalkTurkey

There is never an End of Discussion. Probably not is more accurate but I'd hazard a "definitely not now" approach since the market doesn't require it. I don't know what people are getting so upset about.

In other opinion {general, not for Breezy}, DGI will be very successful. I've said it for at least a year now and probably longer. IDK search it. There will be a high success rate; however the mathematics of actually getting to mainline through any of our processes is going to take time. So here is what I suggest: You will probably get the delta job if you've been hired since 2016 because we hired mainly college grads. So please, max your 401k and IRA if you have one (you should), and wait for your turn.

TalkTurkey

Here's the problem. Most of our pilots are Alpha males or newbs. In other words the A-types cant see past their own noses so they don't give a flying J about the next crew as made evident when youre standing in the jetway for a crew change and you hear the APU shut down.

The other type just don't know any better. So they'll slide the seat up just a few inches to comfortably grab their hats and leave it like that, oh and please always triple check the steering and light switches.

prex8390

Overall too I think the choice of candidates going into the DGI will be much different than the ones in the SSP, not trying to rain on their parade but I’ve met a lot of guys in the SSP and I thought to myself well no duh they didn’t get the job, but more good ones too. The guys going out for the DGI were not ones that went through 9/11 and a bankruptsy. I think the preparedness and the attitude will be a lot better. People assuming its a hand shake deal this time through will be assuming that on their own. Will Very good candidates not get the job? Most definitely, but I think the success rate will be much higher. People already calling it a failure when literally nobody has done it yet Is foolish. I can tell we have a lot of mathematicians here at endeavor but until I see some actual data I’m going to keep an open mind

KaiserSoze

While I hope you right, I have a problem with the math.
The MAXIMUM we will send is 180 per year. ( This is from the section that states the lesser of 33% or 180.) If we send the maximum number per month 24 (Minimum) and there is no pool only CJO's. The success rate will be 180/288 = 63% success rate.

I think that the first few months will be a high success rate (If we prepare). But when the months that submit at least 24 are in full swing. The rates will be low.

I think someone earlier did the same math, but I'm repeating it again.
I hope we can know before hand how many they are submitting. I think the odds are against those of us in the top of the hiring bell curve. We will have to see.

flydiamond

Elsewhere in the document I saw language that basically “guaranteed” a 1 year pool.

“If on January 1st of any calendar year there are fewer than one hundred eighty (180) DGI CJO holders either eligible or remaining to move to Delta, monthly movement of those Pilots will be evenly divided into twelve months.”

Not quite sure how to interpret it but it looks like they’re expecting to build a pool and keep people around.

I thought the DGI was supposed to be pool free. If they added one, the success rates better be higher than OTS interviews / DGI otherwise a lot of people will leave. People will not wait around for a 40% chance to go to Delta and then wait a year.