Bornflying

Oh I see...so *technically* they aren't comitting to 180 CJO's per year, they are comitting to move 180 pilots to Delta *out of* those offered CJO's. So if they offer 180 CJOs out of the 288 interviewed (62%), then 100% of those offered CJOs would go to Delta that year. But they are leaving themselves room to hire more than 180 per year, but could create a backlog/pool over the next year(s).

So also technically, they are leaving themselves an out to offer less than 180 CJOs per year too correct?

Is this how you are interpreting it?

HighFlight

From my understanding, there is no pool with the DGI. Pass the interview, get a class date. (Unless that has changed)

I would imagine they are anticipating a certain number who interview will not make the cut, just like with the SSP.

Glad to hear this is moving forward for you guys. Congrats!

Blueskies21

I think it changed... the new program details allow for 15 Endeavor pilots to move per month sequenced by seniority within interview month (basically the same as the SSP was). Also a caveat that if there's less than 180 CJO holders, it's not 15 per month, it's whatever would move the CJO's held January 1 in 12 months. I.e. if there were 60 CJO holders on Jan 1 2020, the movement is 5 per month (60/12) for 2020. Though if we're successful as a group that could be a moot point (I hope it is).

Blueskies21

I don't think any part of the DGI indicates how many CJO's could or must be offered. Delta could offer zero. There's certainly no commitment to offer 180 per year. They're saying IF they offer 180, then they'll take those 180 in a year. If we have 12 guys who are successful, they'll take 12 in a year (1 per month).

One would presume Delta won't offer zero (that makes this recruiting tool pretty ineffective), if we see a similar success rate from the DGI that the SSP had (roughly 50%) then we'd be looking at 144 CJO's a year (24 interviews x 12 months x 50%).

No idea whether the success rate will hold. On one hand, of the non-SSP guys you've got (generally) younger, hungrier guys who have drank the Delta koolaid pretty hard, on the other hand it's now the full selection process with the added psych eval hurdle (which DOES trip up some guys). Time will tell.

amcnd

“33% of all delta hires to be DGI CJO's”
So what happens when Republic gets into this program?? Or Gojet?

CBreezy

They won't? Next question

amcnd

I’m asking what if they do?? May sound like a silly question right now. But this industry is changing quick. What if Delta does add more regionals to this program... why that wording now?? Ask your self...

KelvinHelmholtz

Go back to your kool aid forum and stop trying to stir up sh*t here. None of the wording indicates other regionals are going to be added.

CBreezy

They won't. End of discussion.

Avroman

The TA only guaranteed equal to, not better than.... Nothing currently prevents that, it only prevents them getting a flow if we don't