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Old 10-10-2018, 05:59 PM   #20871  
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that wouldn't be so hard if it wasn't for the fact that delta owns endeavor, dude.
no kidding, lady
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:20 PM   #20872  
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You like making $50 per hour? There's a good chance that wouldn't be the case soon if the MEC hadn't negotiated turning the retention bonuses into hourly pay *before* we were crazy overstaffed. You'd be sweating the prospect of making $30 per hour to sit reserve starting in January.

Go read the SkyWest ALPA 2.0 thread if you want some education about how the ALPA MECs work.
If the retention bonus had expired, this airline would cease to exist due to all the pilots quitting. But that's water under the bridge now.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:47 AM   #20873  
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You're asking how hard it is for a union to have a meeting with another union and decide their company (who they work for, not who works for the union) shall/must hire a bunch of our guys?
But yeah, actually, this.

I'm not positive how those agreements are finalized, i.e I don't know if the United CPP agreements are actually agreements between the airlines or the union but I'm guessing it's the managements not the union.

And since our management is controlled by Delta, I'm going to say they're not going to make an agreement to supply a competitor with pilots.

At the end of the day, regardless of what the union may think, it's company HR who makes the hiring decisions.

Delta's union (also ALPA) has already passed a resolution directing the union to attempt to get the company to hire more ALPA pilots, that's really the best they can do.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:38 PM   #20874  
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Iíd say letís do it. Delta is treating us like the girl (probably young flight attendant) that was in love with you but you never really made it official, you were just playing with her emotions to get your rocks off every couple weeks while pursuing other women. Iíd love to see the look on Baby Bastianís face when he finds out Endeavor is now a UA CPP regional.
Lmao. Talking about Ed, did you see him on CNBC today?
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:48 PM   #20875  
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But yeah, actually, this.

I'm not positive how those agreements are finalized, i.e I don't know if the United CPP agreements are actually agreements between the airlines or the union but I'm guessing it's the managements not the union.

And since our management is controlled by Delta, I'm going to say they're not going to make an agreement to supply a competitor with pilots.

At the end of the day, regardless of what the union may think, it's company HR who makes the hiring decisions.

Delta's union (also ALPA) has already passed a resolution directing the union to attempt to get the company to hire more ALPA pilots, that's really the best they can do.
Iíve learned a lot about the question I had thanks to most of you. Thanks.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:27 AM   #20876  
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Wow! Just wow with the latest ALPA email regarding SSP and DGI. It would appear that our MEC is fighting hard for career progression for all pilots. Thatís a welcoming sight. Flip the coin though, and I can see it as a Comair-type act of boldness. Me personally, I enjoy the light which is shone by the former.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:36 AM   #20877  
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Wow! Just wow with the latest ALPA email regarding SSP and DGI. It would appear that our MEC is fighting hard for career progression for all pilots. Thatís a welcoming sight. Flip the coin though, and I can see it as a Comair-type act of boldness. Me personally, I enjoy the light which is shone by the former.
Agreed. The fact that our parent company refuses to establish defined career progression for us is totally unacceptable.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:59 AM   #20878  
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Wow! Just wow with the latest ALPA email regarding SSP and DGI. It would appear that our MEC is fighting hard for career progression for all pilots. Thatís a welcoming sight. Flip the coin though, and I can see it as a Comair-type act of boldness. Me personally, I enjoy the light which is shone by the former.
I think you may misread that. All the MEC is doing is not letting the company to assign days off for the DGI using SSP language because not all pilots have the DGI so it subserverts seniority. They are negotiating a way to allow the DGI guys the days off in a manner that also gives benefits to nonDGI pilots. This has nothing to do with career progression or progression programs. I could be wrong, but im fairly confident that'd how I read that memo.
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Yea...the memo said that it was meant to clarify...but it did no such thing. Just made me more confused
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:48 PM   #20880  
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Yea...the memo said that it was meant to clarify...but it did no such thing. Just made me more confused
It's pretty simple. The company can't give days off out of seniority.
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