Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
12-18-2018 | 08:52 PM
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Yes. The little bit of respect I had for him is gone after telling us our kids won't know the difference. I tried to read for context and give him the benefit of the doubt, but he is disrespectful and patronizing. Our kids will absolutely know the difference of us being gone. This just shows what he really thinks of his "gold standard". TW, if you're reading this, you know you are wrong and we deserve an apology. This is how you destroy a team and goodwill management has with it's employees. I'd you hadn't noticed, the ice that morale and good labor management relations is standing on gets thinner every day.
Banks have Christmas off, if you need other options. People fly on Christmas so celebrate it on a day you have off with family. Next company I go to I'll be junior there too, and my kid will have Christmas without me, again. It'll be fine. Holidays off ain't gonna happen for all of us, make peace with it, or at the very least make a joke about it.
Snowflakes.
12-18-2018 | 09:00 PM
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My two year old doesn't know I missed Christmas years ago. Tom is a pragmatic man, that was actually a candid moment. You have to choose to see it as anything other than Tom being Tom.
Banks have Christmas off, if you need other options. People fly on Christmas so celebrate it on a day you have off with family. Next company I go to I'll be junior there too, and my kid will have Christmas without me, again. It'll be fine. Holidays off ain't gonna happen for all of us, make peace with it, or at the very least make a joke about it.
Snowflakes.
Banks have Christmas off, if you need other options. People fly on Christmas so celebrate it on a day you have off with family. Next company I go to I'll be junior there too, and my kid will have Christmas without me, again. It'll be fine. Holidays off ain't gonna happen for all of us, make peace with it, or at the very least make a joke about it.
Snowflakes.
Morale is dropping here. Spare me the "back in my day" speech. I lived the bad old days and wouldn't wish that on anyone. Before you start calling names, how about you use whatever education and common sense you may have and examine how a manager's empathy (or lack thereof) affects employees.
12-18-2018 | 09:19 PM
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Yes. The little bit of respect I had for him is gone after telling us our kids won't know the difference. I tried to read for context and give him the benefit of the doubt, but he is disrespectful and patronizing. Our kids will absolutely know the difference of us being gone. This just shows what he really thinks of his "gold standard". TW, if you're reading this, you know you are wrong and we deserve an apology. This is how you destroy a team and goodwill management has with it's employees. I'd you hadn't noticed, the ice that morale and good labor management relations is standing on gets thinner every day.
12-18-2018 | 10:05 PM
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Kind of crappy to cut off his quote to fit your agenda.
Here's the rest. Just disregard the superfluous apostrophe at the end.
Customers and I appreciate your being away from
home so that others can be at theirs. What we do
matters, watch the faces of your Customers as they
exit the terminal and see their loved ones. Your
Holiday flexibility brings tons of joy to family’s
across the country.
home so that others can be at theirs. What we do
matters, watch the faces of your Customers as they
exit the terminal and see their loved ones. Your
Holiday flexibility brings tons of joy to family’s
across the country.
12-19-2018 | 04:24 AM
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From: CR9 CA, FT Minivan Driver
Pragmatic wouldn't be a word I would use to describe him. Working Christmas is a sacrifice I choose to make as party of this career. Our chief pilot could choose to respect that sacrifice instead of marginalizing it. He's out of touch at best.
Morale is dropping here. Spare me the "back in my day" speech. I lived the bad old days and wouldn't wish that on anyone. Before you start calling names, how about you use whatever education and common sense you may have and examine how a manager's empathy (or lack thereof) affects employees.
Morale is dropping here. Spare me the "back in my day" speech. I lived the bad old days and wouldn't wish that on anyone. Before you start calling names, how about you use whatever education and common sense you may have and examine how a manager's empathy (or lack thereof) affects employees.
I've found TW to be incredibly empathetic. I've never shared this because it's personal, but here goes. Earlier this year, my sister died very unexpectedly. I couldn't reach my ACP or Chief, so I dialed up TW to see if he could help get me back home to Idaho. Not only did he move mountains to cover my remaining legs, he PSed me home on the next flights, stayed on the phone with me for 20+ minutes as I talked gibberishly through the pain of my loss, and three days later, there were flowers from the leadership team at the service.
Watch what you say about management without knowing their true mettle. This leadership team is unlike any I've worked with. Period. End stop.
12-19-2018 | 04:42 AM
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I've found TW to be incredibly empathetic. I've never shared this because it's personal, but here goes. Earlier this year, my sister died very unexpectedly. I couldn't reach my ACP or Chief, so I dialed up TW to see if he could help get me back home to Idaho. Not only did he move mountains to cover my remaining legs, he PSed me home on the next flights, stayed on the phone with me for 20+ minutes as I talked gibberishly through the pain of my loss, and three days later, there were flowers from the leadership team at the service.
Watch what you say about management without knowing their true mettle. This leadership team is unlike any I've worked with. Period. End stop.
Watch what you say about management without knowing their true mettle. This leadership team is unlike any I've worked with. Period. End stop.
12-19-2018 | 05:45 AM
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Perhaps I was a bit hard on him in my tiredness last night. I still stand by his wording being far off base in saying "your two year old won't know the difference"
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
12-19-2018 | 05:53 AM
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Perhaps I was a bit hard on him in my tiredness last night. I still stand by his wording being far off base in saying "your two year old won't know the difference"
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
12-19-2018 | 06:09 AM
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Perhaps I was a bit hard on him in my tiredness last night. I still stand by his wording being far off base in saying "your two year old won't know the difference"
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
I can write it off as being a bad joke at best, but someone in his position should know a few things about tact and delivery in his communications.
Ya tell a joke about running over squirrels and there just so happens to be a guy in the back of the room who ran over a squirrel that very morning and he feels awful about it. Next thing you know, he's flinging poo.
Just as TW gets the benefit of the doubt, so do you.
And stop worrying about that squirrel.
Last edited by Flogger; 12-19-2018 at 06:42 AM.
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