Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
09-29-2017, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Everyone's "compensation" will increase if the soft money changes are made in our contract.
Everyone will have more money in their pocket once you calculate all the factors.
Most pilots will see an increase in their "pay" (which seems to be all most pilots look at)
Those that pickup at 150% will see a much bigger increase in "pay".
Everyone will have more money in their pocket once you calculate all the factors.
Most pilots will see an increase in their "pay" (which seems to be all most pilots look at)
Those that pickup at 150% will see a much bigger increase in "pay".
09-29-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wmichflyer
If that happens, and current hiring continues the way it has been, then Endeavor will take a massive staffing hit. 
Pay). but can we atleast see the proposal before we say it’s terrible?
09-29-2017, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wmichflyer
We'll see what everyone's W-2s say at the end of the year. But can you seriously justify anyone taking a cut?
You do know how soft money in contracts adds up to more money in your pocket right.
Pay raise.
The biggest thing is to turn the TEMPORARY "bonus" into real pay.
Between better 401k and if they raise the yearly caps, insurance, sick and vacation actual, I'm thinking it's going to be a much better "compensation" package than what we have now.
09-29-2017, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
No one will take a cut.
You do know how soft money in contracts adds up to more money in your pocket right.
Pay raise.
The biggest thing is to turn the TEMPORARY "bonus" into real pay.
Between better 401k and if they raise the yearly caps, insurance, sick and vacation actual, I'm thinking it's going to be a much better "compensation" package than what we have now.
You do know how soft money in contracts adds up to more money in your pocket right.
Pay raise.
The biggest thing is to turn the TEMPORARY "bonus" into real pay.
Between better 401k and if they raise the yearly caps, insurance, sick and vacation actual, I'm thinking it's going to be a much better "compensation" package than what we have now.
09-29-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wmichflyer
Let's hope. I know it won't be anything near Delta's, but we all need a legitimate way to get there. Judging by the SSP, I'm not optimistic about the DGI. Time will tell.
We need a better way to Delta.
This negotiation was not the place to address that.
09-29-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Not this again Bartok. You are truly an idiot to argue this. Go to ALPA and explain to them how dues shouldn't get taken out of the retention payment because it's not pay. Go to the IRS and tell them taxes shouldn't be taken out of it because it's not pay. If you can get both of them to agree it's not pay, and shouldn't be subject to dues or taxes, then you can come on here and spew your nonsense. Take your semantics bull**** to some other forum. You and everyone else here knows nobody should see a reduction in compensation for their work.
09-29-2017, 02:47 PM
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The ENY to AA flow sits at around 65%, and last I heard, the SSP was about 61% success rate.
Originally Posted by saab340driver
I agree we need to wait for the TA before we jump to conclusions. But you need to understand that all we can go on with the DGI career progression is the SSP pass/fail rate. When DAL has rejected on average 55% of our pilot group with this program, there is no need to believe that DAL will take all the DGI's. Unless of course there is language stating otherwise. Until then, you would be a fool to believe DAL would treat the DGI any different than the SSP, which was not only a slap in the face to our pilot group, but in the end, proved to be a huge sucker punch. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Let's wise up and demand some respect for the sake of our profession and the hard work we put in to maintain DAL quality for their passengers. Flow/B-scale/Staple or back to the drawing board. It's quite simple...
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