Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
11-12-2017, 04:59 PM
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Ok,
I need to rant and ask some of you crusty old guys; To whom can I point my ire.
[Rant]
I was just awarded ATL on Nov 1st. I bid just in the top 50% of base. There are approximately 15 FO's below me. I did not think I would get a line this month, which I didn't. BUT... I did think I would be able to drop days and pick up open time flying from NY.
OK, we've been on for 12 days now, and only 2...YES 2 reserves have been used. The sheet has 1 green day, which I already had off. I have a really S#!tty schedule filled with 2 on and 1 off stretches. The only time I was even close to dropping a day and trying to open up my days off to get a trip. They were declined because I left a single day of reserve, while trying to move one/drop one.
Scheduling is absolutely NO help, with the party line of "The company will not be able to operate unless we have 13 minimum required reserves when there are only 10 900 flights all day...REALLY!!!!
I'm happy to pick up trips on my 11 days, but don't tell me you need this many reserves this month with only 300 departures all month long.
[/Rant]
OK, Now that I'm done venting and yelling. What can we do about this. How do we get the minimum reserve number to a more realistic level and get green days back. If we can get the "formula" modernized and act as a more realistic tool it will improve life for all of us.
Who really owns this? Who can I talk to, and who has the authority to change it. I don't believe this is a "Delta thing", because I had several DL new hires in my crash pad in NY, and they have a LOT more flexibility in their reserve.
I'm not going to call and yell, I am more than willing to help solve the problem. So, if the owner just happens to read this...please PM me, and let's talk.
If you know who the owner is, and don't want to name names here, please PM me.
This is crazy, that I want to fly and I cant......
I need to rant and ask some of you crusty old guys; To whom can I point my ire.
[Rant]
I was just awarded ATL on Nov 1st. I bid just in the top 50% of base. There are approximately 15 FO's below me. I did not think I would get a line this month, which I didn't. BUT... I did think I would be able to drop days and pick up open time flying from NY.
OK, we've been on for 12 days now, and only 2...YES 2 reserves have been used. The sheet has 1 green day, which I already had off. I have a really S#!tty schedule filled with 2 on and 1 off stretches. The only time I was even close to dropping a day and trying to open up my days off to get a trip. They were declined because I left a single day of reserve, while trying to move one/drop one.
Scheduling is absolutely NO help, with the party line of "The company will not be able to operate unless we have 13 minimum required reserves when there are only 10 900 flights all day...REALLY!!!!
I'm happy to pick up trips on my 11 days, but don't tell me you need this many reserves this month with only 300 departures all month long.
[/Rant]
OK, Now that I'm done venting and yelling. What can we do about this. How do we get the minimum reserve number to a more realistic level and get green days back. If we can get the "formula" modernized and act as a more realistic tool it will improve life for all of us.
Who really owns this? Who can I talk to, and who has the authority to change it. I don't believe this is a "Delta thing", because I had several DL new hires in my crash pad in NY, and they have a LOT more flexibility in their reserve.
I'm not going to call and yell, I am more than willing to help solve the problem. So, if the owner just happens to read this...please PM me, and let's talk.
If you know who the owner is, and don't want to name names here, please PM me.
This is crazy, that I want to fly and I cant......
Last edited by KaiserSoze; 11-12-2017 at 05:13 PM.
11-12-2017, 06:13 PM
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,559
MMmmm, bourbon. My new best friend you are, Yumyum.
Thanks for the reminder. It’s easier to remember the bad stuff, I guess.
Thanks for the reminder. It’s easier to remember the bad stuff, I guess.
Originally Posted by Yumyum
You were also complemented. Just pointing out the another side of the coin high guy! Add some bourbon to your cider.
11-12-2017, 06:38 PM
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,559
Well, for 900 ATL, yesterday, there was only 2/5/1 RSV. Today, 3/6/0. Tomorrow, 5/6/1.
I cannot tell you what the magic formula is, other than they schedule a certain percentage of RSV based on number of lines each day (have seen that percentage before, but don’t remember it).
That being said, I’m only seeing 5/7/9 lines for those 3 days. So that DOES seem like they are scheduling more RSV than needed. Might want to contact an ALPA rep about it?
I cannot tell you what the magic formula is, other than they schedule a certain percentage of RSV based on number of lines each day (have seen that percentage before, but don’t remember it).
That being said, I’m only seeing 5/7/9 lines for those 3 days. So that DOES seem like they are scheduling more RSV than needed. Might want to contact an ALPA rep about it?
11-12-2017, 07:04 PM
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Posts: 157
Originally Posted by HighFlight
That being said, I’m only seeing 5/7/9 lines for those 3 days. So that DOES seem like they are scheduling more RSV than needed. Might want to contact an ALPA rep about it?
11-13-2017, 04:14 AM
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,237
Originally Posted by KaiserSoze
Ok,
I need to rant and ask some of you crusty old guys; To whom can I point my ire.
[Rant]
I was just awarded ATL on Nov 1st. I bid just in the top 50% of base. There are approximately 15 FO's below me. I did not think I would get a line this month, which I didn't. BUT... I did think I would be able to drop days and pick up open time flying from NY.
OK, we've been on for 12 days now, and only 2...YES 2 reserves have been used. The sheet has 1 green day, which I already had off. I have a really S#!tty schedule filled with 2 on and 1 off stretches. The only time I was even close to dropping a day and trying to open up my days off to get a trip. They were declined because I left a single day of reserve, while trying to move one/drop one.
Scheduling is absolutely NO help, with the party line of "The company will not be able to operate unless we have 13 minimum required reserves when there are only 10 900 flights all day...REALLY!!!!
I'm happy to pick up trips on my 11 days, but don't tell me you need this many reserves this month with only 300 departures all month long.
[/Rant]
OK, Now that I'm done venting and yelling. What can we do about this. How do we get the minimum reserve number to a more realistic level and get green days back. If we can get the "formula" modernized and act as a more realistic tool it will improve life for all of us.
Who really owns this? Who can I talk to, and who has the authority to change it. I don't believe this is a "Delta thing", because I had several DL new hires in my crash pad in NY, and they have a LOT more flexibility in their reserve.
I'm not going to call and yell, I am more than willing to help solve the problem. So, if the owner just happens to read this...please PM me, and let's talk.
If you know who the owner is, and don't want to name names here, please PM me.
This is crazy, that I want to fly and I cant......
I need to rant and ask some of you crusty old guys; To whom can I point my ire.
[Rant]
I was just awarded ATL on Nov 1st. I bid just in the top 50% of base. There are approximately 15 FO's below me. I did not think I would get a line this month, which I didn't. BUT... I did think I would be able to drop days and pick up open time flying from NY.
OK, we've been on for 12 days now, and only 2...YES 2 reserves have been used. The sheet has 1 green day, which I already had off. I have a really S#!tty schedule filled with 2 on and 1 off stretches. The only time I was even close to dropping a day and trying to open up my days off to get a trip. They were declined because I left a single day of reserve, while trying to move one/drop one.
Scheduling is absolutely NO help, with the party line of "The company will not be able to operate unless we have 13 minimum required reserves when there are only 10 900 flights all day...REALLY!!!!
I'm happy to pick up trips on my 11 days, but don't tell me you need this many reserves this month with only 300 departures all month long.
[/Rant]
OK, Now that I'm done venting and yelling. What can we do about this. How do we get the minimum reserve number to a more realistic level and get green days back. If we can get the "formula" modernized and act as a more realistic tool it will improve life for all of us.
Who really owns this? Who can I talk to, and who has the authority to change it. I don't believe this is a "Delta thing", because I had several DL new hires in my crash pad in NY, and they have a LOT more flexibility in their reserve.
I'm not going to call and yell, I am more than willing to help solve the problem. So, if the owner just happens to read this...please PM me, and let's talk.
If you know who the owner is, and don't want to name names here, please PM me.
This is crazy, that I want to fly and I cant......
Complain when they award you what you requested
11-13-2017, 05:05 AM
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by clueless
Did anyone else only get a $45 refund from the deltanet deal? am i missing something?
I'm dumb.
11-13-2017, 05:09 AM
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 66
Originally Posted by HighFlight
Living in base helps, sure. But I've flown with a 23-year commuter who mostly 2-legs it to and from work. His attitude is great, and he's fun to fly with. So I think it's more about the person than where they choose to live.
11-13-2017, 05:28 AM
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Posts: 505
Last winter I sat reserve, one short call the other ready, during two days of consecutive IROPs in NYC and DTW. Never got called. It's not that scheduling just sets the reserve requirements as they please they also don't know how to use reserves efficiently.
Dispatcher turnover is so high the new guys can't get a 30,000ft view of anything. They get tunnel vision and have a hard time generating creative solutions. Most of the time they mess with my schedule I find myself telling them what I see is the best solution for my schedule. It's not entirely their fault either because we don't have enough schedulers.... No airline does.
This is something to bring to the reps over and over again. The next time we sit at the negotiating table they should work to get a data driven solution in place for reserves. Not just pick and choose at random.
Dispatcher turnover is so high the new guys can't get a 30,000ft view of anything. They get tunnel vision and have a hard time generating creative solutions. Most of the time they mess with my schedule I find myself telling them what I see is the best solution for my schedule. It's not entirely their fault either because we don't have enough schedulers.... No airline does.
This is something to bring to the reps over and over again. The next time we sit at the negotiating table they should work to get a data driven solution in place for reserves. Not just pick and choose at random.
11-13-2017, 05:56 AM
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,146
Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
Last winter I sat reserve, one short call the other ready, during two days of consecutive IROPs in NYC and DTW. Never got called. It's not that scheduling just sets the reserve requirements as they please they also don't know how to use reserves efficiently.
Dispatcher turnover is so high the new guys can't get a 30,000ft view of anything. They get tunnel vision and have a hard time generating creative solutions. Most of the time they mess with my schedule I find myself telling them what I see is the best solution for my schedule. It's not entirely their fault either because we don't have enough schedulers.... No airline does.
This is something to bring to the reps over and over again. The next time we sit at the negotiating table they should work to get a data driven solution in place for reserves. Not just pick and choose at random.
Dispatcher turnover is so high the new guys can't get a 30,000ft view of anything. They get tunnel vision and have a hard time generating creative solutions. Most of the time they mess with my schedule I find myself telling them what I see is the best solution for my schedule. It's not entirely their fault either because we don't have enough schedulers.... No airline does.
This is something to bring to the reps over and over again. The next time we sit at the negotiating table they should work to get a data driven solution in place for reserves. Not just pick and choose at random.
Those IROP emails are the best
Reserve coverage: poor-nil
Open time: 500 Legs open
Yet no call to fly
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