Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
10-07-2016, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Their process isn't perfect. They've hired some not so good ones as well. And they've also received a lot of good pilots and a few bad ones from flow as well. I don't have the statistics but I believe the percentages between the two methods are close. What I don't understand is it seems that outside of being from the military everyone else seems to be equal. Whereas American seems to value someone flying their brand. The cultures between American and Delta on hiring and flow are completely different, yet both are very good airlines.
10-07-2016, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Just wanna say thanks to eveyone who helped me with info along the way. Making my way over from awac to here at the end of the month!
10-07-2016, 10:57 AM
#7153
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Paying mainline wages at a regional to avoid a flow; and they wonder why so many guys either didn't bother with the SSP or didn't bother with their second try. With that attitude in mainline, I can't blame them for not wanting to work there.
10-07-2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA
Mainline wages at a regional? Are you joking? The new payscale at Delta will top 350/hr plus profit sharing. Regional captains make a little over 100k where Mainline make 250-400k. Not even in the same ballpark. Fo payrates diverge even greater. Guys who weren't interested in the SSP potentially lost millions.
10-07-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, American has a very welcoming culture to flows, Delta, not so much.
As a former Eagle guy it's funny to hear someone say AA is welcoming to flows. Most definitely NOT the case 15 years ago. My how the times have changed.
10-07-2016, 01:12 PM
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Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, American has a very welcoming culture to flows, Delta, not so much.
So how can one grade an airline on a program it doesn't have? You can't count Compass or Endeavor because those programs were not true flows like Envoy to AA.
Or...is your point AA is more open to the idea of a pure flow unlike Delta and United? Either way, Delta has chosen to retain more control over their selection process. I don't necessarily agree it'll stay that way. But as long as the guys in charge think there's thousands banging on or doors to get here, it certainly won't change.
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10-07-2016, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle
Maybe if they had more of a welcoming interview. Disloyalty on Deltas part I guess.
And disloyalty? Come on. The fact that you put it like that implies a sense of entitlement that you deserve to get a high level job in 15 minutes of back slapping, grinning and gripping and a quick check of the ap as a formality. That you were given the opportunity, and I assure you you were treated fairly, is hardly a lack of loyalty.
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