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Old 12-21-2018 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
Agreed. You can't expect as high a success rate with a guarantee interview as off the street. Off the street are people Delta is CHOOSING to interview. You can assume if they're choosing to interview them it's their job to lose, and 1 in 4 do. The fact we're trailing that by only 10% on whoever met the requirements to interview in the first group is kind of impressive.

That said, it'd have been cool to see a higher rate. Maybe it will improve with time.
*Clap clap clap*

So predictable it's actually comforting.
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Old 12-21-2018 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
*Clap clap clap*

So predictable it's actually comforting.
If I understood your long post a few posts ago, I don't think I said anything you predicted.

I'm saying, 64% is relatively good (in line with the SSP), which is basically what I've said we'd see the whole time.
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Old 12-21-2018 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
If I understood your long post a few posts ago, I don't think I said anything you predicted.

I'm saying, 64% is relatively good (in line with the SSP), which is basically what I've said we'd see the whole time.
At this point in the SSP timeline, wasn’t the pass rate in the 20s%?
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Old 12-22-2018 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
At this point in the SSP timeline, wasn’t the pass rate in the 20s%?
Delta has given the DGI guys an advantage of extra points over the SSP. How much that helps, I don't know, but the union said it would be a significant improvement. I expected the DGI to be below 50%, so I was pleasantly surprised so far, but we'll see as more groups go through.
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Old 12-22-2018 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Delta has given the DGI guys an advantage of extra points over the SSP. How much that helps, I don't know, but the union said it would be a significant improvement. I expected the DGI to be below 50%, so I was pleasantly surprised so far, but we'll see as more groups go through.
The ALPA rep I talked to said that its 1 point but that they don't know how significant it is because Delta wouldn't divulge what kind of scale that it was based off of. He thought that it was insignificant.
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Old 12-22-2018 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Delta has given the DGI guys an advantage of extra points over the SSP. How much that helps, I don't know, but the union said it would be a significant improvement. I expected the DGI to be below 50%, so I was pleasantly surprised so far, but we'll see as more groups go through.
A free point is a free point, whatever its significance. Why do they get that again?
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Old 12-23-2018 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bronc
A free point is a free point, whatever its significance. Why do they get that again?
SSP pilots that try get it the free point not those pilots that fall under DGI. Why is a great question?
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Old 12-23-2018 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 4myfamily
SSP pilots that try get it the free point not those pilots that fall under DGI. Why is a great question?
As I understood it Delta offered the SSP guys an extra point instead of any more flow discussion and we said no. I could be mistaken but that was my understanding from the union career progression call a couple months back.
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Old 12-23-2018 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
As I understood it Delta offered the SSP guys an extra point instead of any more flow discussion and we said no. I could be mistaken but that was my understanding from the union career progression call a couple months back.
I am pretty confident that you are mistaken. Copied from Part 2 of union update.

Delta has indicated that they are more interested in a "defined opportunity" than a "defined pathway" and on that front they would extend an additional opportunity to the former SSP Pilots (as well as SSP-eligible Pilots who did not participate) by granting them an additional point during the DGI interview process. Delta has indicated that this additional point will make a material difference in the success of the candidate. We don't know if an additional point will make a difference since we are not privy to the scoring program associated with the interview, and Delta has not been willing to provide further details. In addition to the "point" Delta has also committed to allowing pilots previously eligible for the SSP to redo only the portion of the interview they were previously unsuccessful in. While we can appreciate that this move may result in Endeavor pilots having greater interview success, we expressed to Delta the program still does not meet our goal of guaranteed and contractual Career Progression. To be clear, while we do not object to measures that will enhance our pilots' success, we are committed to working diligently towards a model that serves our entire pilot group and the long term interests of both parties.
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Old 12-23-2018 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 4myfamily
SSP pilots that try get it the free point not those pilots that fall under DGI. Why is a great question?
That isn't particularly coherent
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