Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
07-10-2018, 01:55 PM
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: Deuce Driver
Posts: 298
Originally Posted by slowyourroll
Still are. First 3 of a SSN are dictated by location.
It will be a few years until the random numbers that started in 2011 start showing up in the workforce.
It will be a few years until the random numbers that started in 2011 start showing up in the workforce.
07-10-2018, 03:39 PM
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
Originally Posted by preflight
Maybe now, but they used to be assigned geographically. I don't recall how, but east to west or west to east order of seniority...
Things change, better and worse.
Things change, better and worse.
07-11-2018, 06:37 PM
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: CRJ200 CA
Posts: 577
The whole in-class seniority is generally not a big deal. Usually the whole class gets the same initial assignment.
There are quite a few instances where in class seniority is a really big deal, but they are niches and rare. Such as, CA awards are not made in initial assignments since 9E has no street-CA program, but 2 guys in the same class could possibly be competing for a CA slot even while in FO training.
But, for 99 out of 100 new hires, in-class seniority is not really important and certainly not worth worrying about. The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
There are quite a few instances where in class seniority is a really big deal, but they are niches and rare. Such as, CA awards are not made in initial assignments since 9E has no street-CA program, but 2 guys in the same class could possibly be competing for a CA slot even while in FO training.
But, for 99 out of 100 new hires, in-class seniority is not really important and certainly not worth worrying about. The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
07-11-2018, 09:19 PM
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Left Seat
Posts: 69
Originally Posted by Flogger
The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
Seniority numbers will be assigned to individuals on the first day of their new-hire
training in the following order: Company transferees will be assigned the lowest
seniority numbers within the class, in order of their most recent date of employment
with the Company, then new-hires will be assigned seniority numbers on the basis
of the last four digits of each individual’s Social Security number. Individuals with
the higher numbers will be assigned the lowest seniority numbers. New-hires with
identical last four digits of their Social Security numbers, and transferees with
identical employment dates, will determine their relative placement by drawing
numbers.
training in the following order: Company transferees will be assigned the lowest
seniority numbers within the class, in order of their most recent date of employment
with the Company, then new-hires will be assigned seniority numbers on the basis
of the last four digits of each individual’s Social Security number. Individuals with
the higher numbers will be assigned the lowest seniority numbers. New-hires with
identical last four digits of their Social Security numbers, and transferees with
identical employment dates, will determine their relative placement by drawing
numbers.
07-12-2018, 07:01 AM
Bus Driver ordinarie
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 555
Originally Posted by Flogger
The whole in-class seniority is generally not a big deal. Usually the whole class gets the same initial assignment.
There are quite a few instances where in class seniority is a really big deal, but they are niches and rare. Such as, CA awards are not made in initial assignments since 9E has no street-CA program, but 2 guys in the same class could possibly be competing for a CA slot even while in FO training.
But, for 99 out of 100 new hires, in-class seniority is not really important and certainly not worth worrying about. The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
There are quite a few instances where in class seniority is a really big deal, but they are niches and rare. Such as, CA awards are not made in initial assignments since 9E has no street-CA program, but 2 guys in the same class could possibly be competing for a CA slot even while in FO training.
But, for 99 out of 100 new hires, in-class seniority is not really important and certainly not worth worrying about. The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
My class got pretty much every possible combination apart from MSP -9.
With the seat lock this could become even more important. I don't think many new hires bid for the Deuce; but clever ones may consider it. A decent break after OE, near immediate Line and lashings of Premium pay make it a contender for the smart money.
The only good advice I've heard about class drops is to bid what you want, and fly what you get.
With Endeavor primed for some significant growth over the coming months you won't go too far wrong..
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