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Old 07-10-2018 | 10:27 AM
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What's the ratio of new hires getting the 900 vs 200?
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Old 07-10-2018 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc
SSNs are randomized... You are just as likely to have a 64 year old or a 21 year old be the most senior person in a class. That being said, if you have a 00xx SSN and want to be the most senior person in the class- I might suggest a different airline.
Maybe now, but they used to be assigned geographically. I don't recall how, but east to west or west to east order of seniority...

Things change, better and worse.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 10:34 AM
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Still are. First 3 of a SSN are dictated by location.

It will be a few years until the random numbers that started in 2011 start showing up in the workforce.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slowyourroll
Still are. First 3 of a SSN are dictated by location.

It will be a few years until the random numbers that started in 2011 start showing up in the workforce.
Good thing they only look at the last 4 then.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nkweb
What's the ratio of new hires getting the 900 vs 200?
Based purely on company needs and what your class seniority is and bid. Jan was 200 heavy, March was 900 heavy, etc...
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Old 07-10-2018 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by preflight
Maybe now, but they used to be assigned geographically. I don't recall how, but east to west or west to east order of seniority...

Things change, better and worse.
The last 4 having nothing to do with geographic location. It was the first digits. Last 4 are as random as you can get.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by preflight
I heard somebody filed a lawsuit...
There's always a lawsuit, and they always get thrown out.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 06:17 PM
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July class just went all 900, previous class was all 900, class before that was all 200. It's pure luck.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 06:37 PM
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The whole in-class seniority is generally not a big deal. Usually the whole class gets the same initial assignment.

There are quite a few instances where in class seniority is a really big deal, but they are niches and rare. Such as, CA awards are not made in initial assignments since 9E has no street-CA program, but 2 guys in the same class could possibly be competing for a CA slot even while in FO training.

But, for 99 out of 100 new hires, in-class seniority is not really important and certainly not worth worrying about. The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
The company can award seniority however they please since it's not covered in the CBA.
It is covered in Section 22 B. 3.
Seniority numbers will be assigned to individuals on the first day of their new-hire
training in the following order: Company transferees will be assigned the lowest
seniority numbers within the class, in order of their most recent date of employment
with the Company, then new-hires will be assigned seniority numbers on the basis
of the last four digits of each individual’s Social Security number. Individuals with
the higher numbers will be assigned the lowest seniority numbers. New-hires with
identical last four digits of their Social Security numbers, and transferees with
identical employment dates, will determine their relative placement by drawing
numbers.
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