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Old 07-15-2019, 09:23 AM   #22021  
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The procedure is to call dispatch/MOC, so I don't find it surprising that someone would be called with a reminder to that effect if they failed to do so. Especially if it resulted in an unnecessary delay.
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The procedure is to call dispatch/MOC, so I don't find it surprising that someone would be called with a reminder to that effect if they failed to do so. Especially if it resulted in an unnecessary delay.
The bigger issue is flying a broken airplane from an outstation to the hub, because you don't want to wait around for contract mx. That definitely deserves a phone call.
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The bigger issue is flying a broken airplane from an outstation to the hub, because you don't want to wait around for contract mx. That definitely deserves a phone call.
No one should be doing that. If maintenance advises you to do that, don't. If anyone tries to push you to do that, don't and call the union.

That's not a phone call, that's an FAA violation (and one that you can't ASAP btw).

I've never once, in all my time here, been asked or told to fly an airplane with an unresolved maintenance issue.

If it's broken, it gets fixed, ferried or deferred, those are the only options.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:16 AM   #22024  
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No one should be doing that. If maintenance advises you to do that, don't. If anyone tries to push you to do that, don't and call the union.

That's not a phone call, that's an FAA violation (and one that you can't ASAP btw).

I've never once, in all my time here, been asked or told to fly an airplane with an unresolved maintenance issue.

If it's broken, it gets fixed, ferried or deferred, those are the only options.
Three words. ď go home dayĒ. I wouldnít be surprised to hear more people arenít being pressured to fly but rather ďwe will write it up in AtlantaĒ
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Three words. ď go home dayĒ. I wouldnít be surprised to hear more people arenít being pressured to fly but rather ďwe will write it up in AtlantaĒ
I've more than once written stuff up on go home day at outstations, if that's where it broke, that's where it gets written up. So far, I don't know that I've even missed a commute home because of it yet. The day may come but keeping a violation off my record would be worth taking one flight later home, I'll have to hope I'm not in the minority.
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I should reword myself and say that itís notifying maintenance at the hub to have them come out as opposed to just contacting MOC and getting guided through the process of deferring something. The reason being that a delay ensues when maintenance must come out... I donít honestly know which would take more time- deferring yourself or having MX do it for you. Kind of like deciding whether to take the JITNEY or walking down terminal 4 at JFK.
For me itís -walk the terminal. Need to get some steps in whenever I can.
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Just a reminder as well that if you have a mechanical discrepancy and you call OCC; donít let maintenance tell you to reset breakers or start engines to clear reverser cautions etc. You can do an aircraft power reset, but we donít want to see corrective actions where you cycled breakers under the direction of MOC. Feds donít want that anymore
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Just a reminder as well that if you have a mechanical discrepancy and you call OCC; donít let maintenance tell you to reset breakers or start engines to clear reverser cautions etc. You can do an aircraft power reset, but we donít want to see corrective actions where you cycled breakers under the direction of MOC. Feds donít want that anymore
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Isnít fault reset procedures exactly that. I donít agree with it and think the FAA needs to be watching closer right now and not just MX. Powering down the aircraft and up again does not always work! MOC has said they can pull and reset breakers as many times as they want😮. I think pilots can do it three times. Itís becoming an issue. If it wasnít this conversation would not be taking place. It will only get worse with the older beat up aircraft we will be getting. I just donít get why anyone would want those old clapped out 700s. I think theyíre going to be a bad choice. Iím either right or wrong but we wonít honestly know for a while.
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Isnít fault reset procedures exactly that. I donít agree with it and think the FAA needs to be watching closer right now and not just MX. Powering down the aircraft and up again does not always work! MOC has said they can pull and reset breakers as many times as they want😮. I think pilots can do it three times. Itís becoming an issue. If it wasnít this conversation would not be taking place. It will only get worse with the older beat up aircraft we will be getting. I just donít get why anyone would want those old clapped out 700s. I think theyíre going to be a bad choice. Iím either right or wrong but we wonít honestly know for a while.
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