Gonzo521

Thank you, yea I tried calling them earlier and got a voicemail. I've also tried IE/Edge/Opera GX as well as different computers.

Av8rPHX

450 pilots? Are they getting birds from someone? Planning on people bailing to NK or F9?


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Casualinterest

That might be a placeholder. Our dgi application online has a set number, but I think that's just how icims works. It's gonna be higher than the 150 they originally said though. We're about to have 100 instructors in msp

Gone Flying

probably trying to get ahead of the hiring curve. DL will probably start hiring in the fall, and after they get through people holding CJOs I’m guessing DGI and OTS hiring will follow shortly.

In addition to DL, NK, F9 and cargo companies; UA, and maybe B6 will probably be hiring by DEC 2021

cleared4reserve

What is Endeavor looking for in their pilots qualification wise?
Are they interested in hiring some former Compass, TSA, or XJT?

Svfr

I don't think anyone knows specifically what want and it will probably have to do with the qualifications of who applies. The union has stated that they've talked with the company about giving priority to ALPA pilots who have found themselves on the street in the past year

SoFloFlyer

Hey guys, just out of curiosity. What was the success rate of the DGI pre-covid? I heard things such as “DGI hurts your chances of getting on at DAL” and “you’ll have better luck getting to Delta if you’re at another regional”. How true is all this?

Casualinterest

It was a little less than off the street numbers. Like 50-60%


BUT.

1. Very few people had completed their second attempt, and those that attempted had a much higher rate 70-80% if I recall
2. The first people to go through were the most senior, many of which already had 2 fails on the ssp interview process. These guys were unfortunately going to be a long shot anyway.
3. Theoretically the success rate SHOULD be lower than OTS. Because Delta had to interview ALL of our dgi applicants even the ones they would have never called in the first place off the street.
4. They just added the extra interview point and removal of the written exam before covid. That should have increased the numbers a little.

I don't agree with the premise that your chances are better elsewhere of getting the job. That would mean somehow working for another airline would make you a better pilot or interview. Remember that if any airline chooses to call you, they've already made a decision that you're probably a good fit, but need to verify it in the interview. That vetting process didn't occur with the DGI.

I also don't agree that your chances of getting the interview are better ots. Because if your resume is good enough to get called you can still apply ots while working here and get called outside of the DGI. I know several people that have done this. And per the terms of the DGI Delta "must" interview a certain percentage of endeavor captains in their interview groups, and they "must" fill a certain percentage of class seats with us too.

Now the legitimate criticism of the program.... It's not contractual! They can do whatever they want with it. Even kill it. I would ONLY recommend coming here for the DGI if you don't think you're strong enough on paper to get the call, but think you're strong enough in person to nail the job. I know a few people that would never have been called, but killed the interview and got on.

No one should come here exclusively for the DGI. It's not a great program if only because it's non-contractual. I'm not defending the success rate, I think it should've been higher. But I understand why it wasn't at the start. It had been slowly getting better over time.

I have a sneaky suspicion something better is coming. But I'll hold off speculating for now

SoFloFlyer

This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the insight!

Zerosilver84

Wasn't the success rate after theychanged it up in Nov of 2019 around 75-80%? Given that was only a few months of data before covid shut everything down. But yes before they altered it the success rate was terrible. Could that 80% be the new norm when it starts back up..sure could,it go higher or lower...Definitely!